Martial Arts are Witchcraft, just ask this guy!

[Holmejr3]

Apropos of nothing, I do a lot of yoga and I know people in church who think it's demonic. One rarely finds these attitudes in those with a theological training, it's more the rank and file who have outlandish Ideas like this. No, I don't think martial arts is witchcraft, but the views of some martial artists don't exactly help with this notion either. There are far too many of us who view chi, for instance, as being something akin to the force.

Of course it’s not the physical exercise of yoga that is the problem, it the spiritual / religious aspect of it. The Bible literally warns of angles / demons coming and presenting another gospel. Christianity helped define western civilization, Hinduism helped define cast system.

 

[isshinryuronin]

I don't get this whole discussion. TMA is self-control over body, mind and fighting spirit and imposing one's will over the opponent. Theology or supernatural elements have nothing to do with it. Putting these into the Art is delusional self-satisfaction or marketing propaganda.

 

[Flying Crane]

Of course it’s not the physical exercise of yoga that is the problem, it the spiritual / religious aspect of it. The Bible literally warns of angles / demons coming and presenting another gospel. Christianity helped define western civilization, Hinduism helped define cast system.

Are you saying that you believe the religions of India are a problem, some kind of demon worship?

 

[HighKick]

Of course it’s not the physical exercise of yoga that is the problem, it the spiritual / religious aspect of it. The Bible literally warns of angles / demons coming and presenting another gospel. Christianity helped define western civilization, Hinduism helped define cast system.

Man, you just do not understand what Yoga is about. It has nothing to do with religion, any religion. And 'religion' and 'spiritual' are very, very, very different in meaning.
Do a little research/study on Yoga and you will learn this.

 

[Holmejr3]

Are you saying that you believe the religions of India are a problem, some kind of demon worship?

Man, you just do not understand what Yoga is about. It has nothing to do with religion, any religion. And 'religion' and 'spiritual' are very, very, very different in meaning.
Do a little research/study on Yoga and you will learn this.

You are wrong. Of course, the western version is basically physical and like I stated, the phycal movement is not the issue.

So when in wore my martial arts emblemed shirt to church, someone pointed out that martial arts were not “Christian” in which I explained that it is how it is taught. Not all martial arts revolve around Taoism, Buddhism , Confucianism, etc.

 

[Prince_Alarming104]

*Whistles innocently*. What is Christian Yoga - Christian Yoga Association *Goes about his business*

 

[Flying Crane]

You are wrong. Of course, the western version is basically physical and like I stated, the phycal movement is not the issue.

So when in wore my martial arts emblemed shirt to church, someone pointed out that martial arts were not “Christian” in which I explained that it is how it is taught. Not all martial arts revolve around Taoism, Buddhism , Confucianism, etc.

About what, am I wrong?

 

[Holmejr3]

About what, am I wrong?

Haha didn’t intentionally include you!

 

[HighKick]

You are wrong. Of course, the western version is basically physical and like I stated, the phycal movement is not the issue.

So when in wore my martial arts emblemed shirt to church, someone pointed out that martial arts were not “Christian” in which I explained that it is how it is taught. Not all martial arts revolve around Taoism, Buddhism , Confucianism, etc.

Are you saying your MA's training is tied to Christanity?

 

[Flying Crane]

Haha didn’t intentionally include you!

I am curious to know if you believe the religious and spiritual practices of India are actually demon worship.

 

[Xue Sheng98]

Reading through this,. I just have to tell this story. Many years ago, I was approached by a protestant minister to teach Taijiquan and I said I would..... however it turned out that there weere not enough students for me to teach, so I decided not to have a class. Then I was approached by the same minister to give classes to the local minsters, priest, etc that were "very" interested. I agreed. However when I talked about what I charge, he said he would have to get back to me. He eventually called me back and then told me that it was best if they did not have an eastern religion in the church....

I said to him, I am not a taoist or a buddhist and taijiquan is not teaching either. We had a bit more of a discussion and I finlly had to say, if a taijiquan class can make you questoin your religion, you have a rather tenuous grasp on your religion ..... I also said I would not teach.

This by the way was the third time this minister contacted me about classes. I said I need a minium of 6 students both times. First time the got 3, second time 4, third time, well I have no idea, he never told me how many religious leaders wanted to learn.....well...at least until I wanted to get paid for teaching.

What I found bery interesting was they were all "Very interested" (his words not mine) but as soon as I talked about money... it became a threatening Eastern religion.

 

[Same Trick49]

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[Darren1]

There a many unbalanced pastors and preachers. That is why there are pastors that pastor Pastors! Your father maybe should have been more sensitive to your needs. My father was an uptight drinking jerk. He could not express love easily, but built and fixed things. It wasn’t until I became a Christian that I leaned to not only forgive him, but understand him. This brought peace to our relationship b

had two uncles that where drunks, one loved to make fun of me all the time, the other was just a old brawler tough as ****! they also loved to beat me every change they got then would have to go to school and go through it again, destroyed my self confidence and esteem, at 61 years of age still don`t have any don`t think i will ever get it back but im going to keep on trying death will be the only thing that stops me from trying! but have forgiven them i can`t help that they where sick, there dead now and that is the thing i Ive noticed, the ones that did that to me dead very young, the ones that did not lived long lifes and/or still living, got to thinking is life really a gift? or not? i mean the ones that are still down has to deal with all the **** that goes down here they don`t have deal with crap anymore, but the ones that died have no more problems at least none we know about on the spiritual plane of life. if this don't make sense please ask me to clarify its been a hard morning. thank you.

 

[Darren1]

Reading through this,. I just have to tell this story. Many years ago, I was approached by a protestant minister to teach Taijiquan and I said I would..... however it turned out that there weere not enough students for me to teach, so I decided not to have a class. Then I was approached by the same minister to give classes to the local minsters, priest, etc that were "very" interested. I agreed. However when I talked about what I charge, he said he would have to get back to me. He eventually called me back and then told me that it was best if they did not have an eastern religion in the church....

I said to him, I am not a taoist or a buddhist and taijiquan is not teaching either. We had a bit more of a discussion and I finlly had to say, if a taijiquan class can make you questoin your religion, you have a rather tenuous grasp on your religion ..... I also said I would not teach.

This by the way was the third time this minister contacted me about classes. I said I need a minium of 6 students both times. First time the got 3, second time 4, third time, well I have no idea, he never told me how many religious leaders wanted to learn.....well...at least until I wanted to get paid for teaching.

What I found bery interesting was they were all "Very interested" (his words not mine) but as soon as I talked about money... it became a threatening Eastern religion.

if this happen here in the states i can see there is a lot of that goes on, much more so in a small town with few people these people are hard heads been dealing with them now for 11 years, but they are good people eve if there a little backwards in some areas.

 

[Darren1]

Man, you just do not understand what Yoga is about. It has nothing to do with religion, any religion. And 'religion' and 'spiritual' are very, very, very different in meaning.
Do a little research/study on Yoga and you will learn that,

 

[Darren1]

i can see the benefits of YOGA, i mean even God his self said take care of the body via way of the food he provides, i don`t think has anything against it i i mean it good for the body and mind it seems

 

[Xue Sheng98]

if this happen here in the states i can see there is a lot of that goes on, much more so in a small town with few people these people are hard heads been dealing with them now for 11 years, but they are good people eve if there a little backwards in some areas.

USA, Northeast, small city, population of about 20,000

 

[Xue Sheng98]

As to Yoga i have seen mentioned in this thread, I use to do that as well, never once did i feel i was getting anything that was Hindu or Buddhist. And i trained (in my pre arthritic youth) power yoga, kripalu yoga, and hatha yoga. These days i do a little yoga for core and balance

 

[Same Trick49]

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The Swede who invented yoga | Pehr Henrik Ling | Legal psychologist | Stockholm

Perhaps more than any other single system of physical culture, the Swedish gymnastics built on the pioneering work of Ling (1766–1839) has oriented the

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