Lies about Retirement

Keep working everyone, until you drop.

Man, I don’t plan to stop doing things, but I’m going to retire from the job I’m in at 57. That’s the minimum age for full retirement. I’ve had a good run and a successful career, but I have some great people on my team and need to get out of their way.

I’d love to get a job at a bougie, 3rd wave cafe pulling espresso. Or maybe I can convince meine Frau to move with me to Anaheim so I can work at Disneyland. 😂
 
It's not really an option for me, I have a lot of clients, but most of them are a lot older than me and rely on me to get stuff done. So my retirement plan is either vagrancy or subsistence agriculture, I haven't decided yet
 
Man, I don’t plan to stop doing things, but I’m going to retire from the job I’m in at 57.
I stopped working full time at about 53, moved to the backwoods hill country of South Carolina, fished off my dock, flipped a couple of houses, spent a few weekends on the beach near Charleston (before moving there) spent a lot of money (and had fun doing it) and now am renting an apartment and just making it OK on my retirement.

Due to minimum money and my wife's health, no more flying to Jamaica or Mexico or cruising about the Carribean or even whitewater rafting trips. Thank goodness I had the sense to do these kinds of things earlier. My advice for those looking towards retirement in their 60's is to NOT WAIT till then to enjoy life! Do as much as you can, when you can. You never know when those opportunities will vanish for one reason or another. My wife and I have a lot to look back on and memories never go away. The future can be taken away, but never the past. Use the present to build a past you can take with you into the future. (I think that makes sense :).)

Now? I try to stay regular, watch TV, work out, go to doctor's appointments, see my kids and grandkids a few times a year and spend time on Martialtalk. All in all, a reasonable, if humble, retirement.



 
Man, I don’t plan to stop doing things, but I’m going to retire from the job I’m in at 57. That’s the minimum age for full retirement.
FERS? Me too. Same goal.

If it ever gets to the point where the cost of living is beyond what my retirement will cover (which is a very real possibility), I'm not above getting a slide-in camper for the truck and parking in front of a 24 hour gym at night.
 
I stopped working full time at about 53, moved to the backwoods hill country of South Carolina, fished off my dock, flipped a couple of houses, spent a few weekends on the beach near Charleston (before moving there) spent a lot of money (and had fun doing it) and now am renting an apartment and just making it OK on my retirement.

Due to minimum money and my wife's health, no more flying to Jamaica or Mexico or cruising about the Carribean or even whitewater rafting trips. Thank goodness I had the sense to do these kinds of things earlier. My advice for those looking towards retirement in their 60's is to NOT WAIT till then to enjoy life! Do as much as you can, when you can. You never know when those opportunities will vanish for one reason or another. My wife and I have a lot to look back on and memories never go away. The future can be taken away, but never the past. Use the present to build a past you can take with you into the future. (I think that makes sense :).)

Now? I try to stay regular, watch TV, work out, go to doctor's appointments, see my kids and grandkids a few times a year and spend time on Martialtalk. All in all, a reasonable, if humble, retirement.



I completely agree with you! There was a fad to pay off ones mortgage as fast as possible by scrimping, not going on holiday, parties, restaurants etc. But it struck me that they may have missed out on incredible experiences or meeting life-changing people thinking they could acquire those experiences at a later date! What did they do when they were mortgage free? They bought a bigger house with another mortgage 🙄
 
FERS? Me too. Same goal.

If it ever gets to the point where the cost of living is beyond what my retirement will cover (which is a very real possibility), I'm not above getting a slide-in camper for the truck and parking in front of a 24 hour gym at night.
I’d struggle with that. I’m a home bird and it needs to be made of brick and stone!
 
My advice to my kids is, whether you think you can afford it or not, put as much as you are allowed into your 401k or TSP. Those early dollars, as meager as they may seem, will compound over your lifetime and make you a small fortune.
And, for the love of everything, leave them alone. I started retirement savings at 22, and was on pace to likely retire by 50. I made the mistake of using those savings for a business investment in my 30's, and destroyed my retirement plan.
 
Man, I don’t plan to stop doing things, but I’m going to retire from the job I’m in at 57.
I retired at 56. It's the best 20 years of my life. I'm glad that I find the best place in US to retire. When I walked on the beach, I think about all the happiness happened in my life. 4 miles running/walking + MA training on the beach keep me busy and happy.

The nice thing is, I can walk to the beach, or walk to the hiking trail head without driving my car.


 
What did they do when they were mortgage free? They bought a bigger house with another mortgage 🙄
Proper real estate investment can help your retirement. If you can put some downpayment on rental property. You then let your tenants to pay your monthly payment. Your retirement fund can grow faster that way.

Many years ago, you can assume VA or FHA loan without qualification. Sometime by putting down only $5,000, you can assume a mortgage. Assume your PITI can be covered by your rent. Your initial $5,000 investment can give you close to 60 times return when you are ready to retire.
 
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And, for the love of everything, leave them alone. I started retirement savings at 22, and was on pace to likely retire by 50. I made the mistake of using those savings for a business investment in my 30's, and destroyed my retirement plan.
Oh no….that’s awful.

I recently heard that company pensions aren’t obligatory in the USA. Is that true? In the U.K., we are strongly incentivised to take one up by the employer having to match the employee’s contribution.
 
Oh no….that’s awful.

I recently heard that company pensions aren’t obligatory in the USA. Is that true? In the U.K., we are strongly incentivised to take one up by the employer having to match the employee’s contribution.
This is correct. If your employer has neither defined benefit nor matching defined contribution plan, it probably takes about 20% of your gross salary being dumped into an IRA to make up for all of that.

"Big government" is the boogie-man here in the US, so there'd be outrage if there was ever talk of a mandate for employers to provide a retirement plan.
 
This is correct. If your employer has neither defined benefit nor matching defined contribution plan, it probably takes about 20% of your gross salary being dumped into an IRA to make up for all of that.

"Big government" is the boogie-man here in the US, so there'd be outrage if there was ever talk of a mandate for employers to provide a retirement plan.
A company provided pension used to be the norm. That said, many employers match a percentage of one’s 401k contributions.

Social security might cover a third of what you earned.
 
A company provided pension used to be the norm. That said, many employers match a percentage of one’s 401k contributions.

Social security might cover a third of what you earned.
Right, I mean outside of social security. That 20% figure, I'm basing on FERS.

You contribute 5% to TSP, your agency matches up to that. That's 10%.

Assuming that your FERS annuity is roughly equal to TSP withdrawals based on life expectancy, that's another 10%. So 20% total that an employee of a private sector employer would have to come out of pocket into an IRA to have something similar to the FERS benefit and TSP.

Of course, if they file a 1099, it becomes 30% because now they have to account for Social Security.
 
Funny. The best paying job I ever had until I turned 40 was what I was doing during my summers as I finished high school.

The next year I returned to school to pursue an economically useless four-year degree from an elite and expensive "Little Ivy" college in New England, and then worked at minimum wage for a couple of years for a well known artist/architect. Then I went on to art school in Arizona for another economically useless degree, an MFA in visual arts with emphasis in sculpture. I spent the next decade or so as a "starving artist" - some good shows, honors and accolades, but no savings or retirement. :confused:

Finally, I worked my way through teachers college and have spent the last 29 years teaching art at a public high school. Next year I'll turn 70 and having completed 30 years teaching, will "retire" to collect my small pension. The plan however is to keep teaching after retirement until I'm too old and sick to continue.

With luck, when that happens, death will mercifully come quickly! :)

The worst thing is dying slowly of dementia. Happened to my mom. Good thing she'd put a little away and had a couple of sons to help. We don't have much of a "safety net" in this country. Of course we do have guns. My older brother has over a hundred. He tells me that if things turn sour, he can sell them to get by, and just keep one, with one bullet for when the money runs out. He's paid for a discount cremation in advance.

Always a planner, that guy! ;)
 
The nice thing is, I can walk to the beach, or walk to the hiking trail head without driving my car.
Pismo Beach used to be a laid-back surfer town. Hope it still has that vibe. The West coast ocean is too cold for me. I much prefer the warm Southeastern ocean water and fine white sand. But there is a lot of rain and humidity. But no earthquakes. But there's a chance for hurricanes. But fewer illegals and homeless. But less rock and roll. But cheaper gas and car insurance. But both have no snow! And people on both coasts can enjoy the same moon on a summer night.
 
A company provided pension used to be the norm. That said, many employers match a percentage of one’s 401k contributions.
Do you receive pension check?

I don't understand how people can live on 401K. I still remember when stock market crashed, people's 401K had reduced 50%.
 
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