Koran Names for Throws: take 2!

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Hey everyone. So I have been digging into research and talking with people born and raised in Korea. A lot of these come from Yudo, but I have brought together a collection of the names for some general throws in Korean. This is not an exstensive list and every system has different variations on how they choose to express these and Yudo/Judo has a name for every variation of throw you can think of, but these are some general ones that you should see in Hapkido, Hwa Rang Do, or any other Korean art with throws.

This is a resource and not the end-all of these things. If it is helpful to what you do, hope you like it. If not, no biggie. Just thought I would share. :)

渥篣: Eob-Eo Chigi: Shoulder Throw (Literal translation: back carry attack/throw)
  • 渥渥篣: Nae Eob-Eo Chigi: Inside Shoulder Throw
  • 賄渥篣: Oe Eob-Eo Chigi: Outside Shoulder Throw
  • 渣渥篣: Nae Hoejeon Eob-Eo Chigi: Inside Spinning Shoulder Throw
  • 貲渥篣: Oe Hoejeon Eob-Eo Chigi: Outside Spinning Shoulder Throw
  • 渠到渠刺收篣: Eob-Eo Tteor-Eotteu rigi: Dropping Shoulder Throw
謔禹輕儦篣: Heori Kkyeo Chigi: Hip Throw (Literal Translation: Back to be inserted to attack/throw)
  • 渣謔禹輕儦篣: Nae Heori Kkyeo Chigi: Inside Hip Throw
  • 貲謔禹輕儦篣: Oe Heori Kkyeo Chigi: Outside Hip Throw
  • 渣謔禹輕儦篣: Nae Hoejeon Heori Kkyeo Chigi: Inside Spinning Hip Throw
  • 謔秒謔禹萼: Heori Hurigi: Sweeping Hip Throw
月收謔禹萼: Dari Hurigi: Leg Sweep (Literal Translation: Leg sweep/reap)
  • 月收謔禹萼: Andari Hurigi: Inside Leg Cut Down: (Inside Hook to either the inside or outside of leg)
  • 諻卿月收謔禹萼: Batdari Hurigi: Outside Leg Sweep (Outside Hook to either the inside or outside of the leg)
  • 月收∫諰儦篣: Dari Jab-Ame Chigi: Leg Catch attack (Double Leg Takedown from front)
  • 月收木渠儦篣: Dari Deul-Eome Chigi: Leg Cover Attack (Double leg pickup from back)
  • 貒月收穇資萼: Heobeok-Dari-Geol-gi: Inner Thigh Trip/Throw: (Sweeping Inner Leg Throw)
  • 諻卿月收穇資萼: Du-bat-Dari-Geol-gi: Back-side Double leg trip
  • 月收儦篣堅謔禹萼: Dari Chigi Hurigi: Leg Kick Takedowns (Takedowns executed by kicks to the legs)
諻儦篣: Bal-Chigi: Foot Sweep (Literal Translation: Foot Attack/Throw)
  • 諻木謔禹萼: Baldwi Chug Hurigi: Inside hook to outside back of heel
  • 木謔禹萼: Andwi Chug Hurigi: Inside hook to Inside of back of heel
  • 諻諈拖∫諰儦篣: Bal-mok Jab-Ame Chigi: Ankle Catch Attack (Single Leg Pickup from Inside or while opponent is behind you)
  • 月 諻儦篣: Naoneun-Bal-Chigi: Inside Sweep to Outside Foot
圉庚諰儦篣: Nuumyeo-Me-Chigi: Sacrifice Throws (Literal Translation: Lie down attack/throw)
  • 諻圉木篣: Bae Dae-Dwichigi: Roll back over throw (foot on stomach, throw overhead)
  • 渠圉庚木篣: Kkeul-Eo-Nuumyeo-Dwijibgi: Roll back flip over (instep to inside of thigh, throw overhead)
  • 諻圉木篣: Yeopui Bae Dae-Dwichigi: Roll back over throw (foot on stomach, to the side)
  • 諟賈收穈儦篣: Meori Gawichigi: Head Scissor takedown
  • 謔禹儦篣: Heori Gawichigi: Hip/waist Scissor takedown
  • 月收穈儦篣: Dari Gawichigi: Leg Scissor takedown
  • 曰到渠刺收篣: Ogeum-Daetteor-Eotteurigi: Duck Under Back Trip (into side slap-fall)
 
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Side note, I had a toddler jumping on me and I accednetly hit the post button, before I could correct the obvious mis-spelling of Korean............. :(

Don't do this stuff when kids are around, just saying.............
 
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What's the difference between

- inside hip throw? back to chest?,
- outside hip throw? back to back?
Where you are in relation to your opponent.

Inside hip throw means your hip is on the front side (what you normally see in hip throw videos), outside means your hip is on the back or outside of their hip.

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Does Korean throwing art have

- more Chinese wrestling (Shuai Chiao) influence, or more Japanese Judo influence?
- throw that you let your leg to do the 1st 1/2 of the job, you then let your hand to do the 2nd 1/2 of the job?

Does this clip look like Korean throwing art that you are talking about?

 
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Does Korean throwing art have

- more Chinese wrestling (Shuai Chiao) influence, or more Japanese Judo influence?
- throw that you let your leg to do the 1st 1/2 of the job, you then let your hand to do the 2nd 1/2 of the job?

Does this clip look like Korean throwing art that you are talking about?

That looks like traditional Korean wrestling. Because of the Japanese occupation, most of the throwing arts in Korea are rooted in Judo. Yudo (Korean Judo) Is the same as Japanese Judo, they just use Korean terms for the throws instead of Japanese terms. Although from what I've heard, schools use both Korean and Japanese names interchangeably.

Most Korean martial arts today have had influences from the Judo practices, although I'm sure there's some Korean practitioners who have done both the traditional wrestling and Judo so there would be interplay there.

The list I posted above are just general names of different types of throws. The source I used does come from Yudo, but if there are people in the forum who are knowledgeable about traditional Korean wrestling and know that names of the throws they use in that, they're more than welcome to comment. The above list is just a reference to use and it's a work in progress. [emoji4]

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Hey everyone. So I have been digging into research and talking with people born and raised in Korea. A lot of these come from Yudo, but I have brought together a collection of the names for some general throws in Korean. This is not an exstensive list and every system has different variations on how they choose to express these and Yudo/Judo has a name for every variation of throw you can think of, but these are some general ones that you should see in Hapkido, Hwa Rang Do, or any other Korean art with throws.

This is a resource and not the end-all of these things. If it is helpful to what you do, hope you like it. If not, no biggie. Just thought I would share. :)

渥篣: Eob-Eo Chigi: Shoulder Throw (Literal translation: back carry attack/throw)
  • 渥渥篣: Nae Eob-Eo Chigi: Inside Shoulder Throw
  • 賄渥篣: Oe Eob-Eo Chigi: Outside Shoulder Throw
  • 渣渥篣: Nae Hoejeon Eob-Eo Chigi: Inside Spinning Shoulder Throw
  • 貲渥篣: Oe Hoejeon Eob-Eo Chigi: Outside Spinning Shoulder Throw
  • 渠到渠刺收篣: Eob-Eo Tteor-Eotteu rigi: Dropping Shoulder Throw
謔禹輕儦篣: Heori Kkyeo Chigi: Hip Throw (Literal Translation: Back to be inserted to attack/throw)
  • 渣謔禹輕儦篣: Nae Heori Kkyeo Chigi: Inside Hip Throw
  • 貲謔禹輕儦篣: Oe Heori Kkyeo Chigi: Outside Hip Throw
  • 渣謔禹輕儦篣: Nae Hoejeon Heori Kkyeo Chigi: Inside Spinning Hip Throw
  • 謔秒謔禹萼: Heori Hurigi: Sweeping Hip Throw
月收謔禹萼: Dari Hurigi: Leg Sweep (Literal Translation: Leg sweep/reap)
  • 月收謔禹萼: Andari Hurigi: Inside Leg Cut Down: (Inside Hook to either the inside or outside of leg)
  • 諻卿月收謔禹萼: Batdari Hurigi: Outside Leg Sweep (Outside Hook to either the inside or outside of the leg)
  • 月收∫諰儦篣: Dari Jab-Ame Chigi: Leg Catch attack (Double Leg Takedown from front)
  • 月收木渠儦篣: Dari Deul-Eome Chigi: Leg Cover Attack (Double leg pickup from back)
  • 貒月收穇資萼: Heobeok-Dari-Geol-gi: Inner Thigh Trip/Throw: (Sweeping Inner Leg Throw)
  • 諻卿月收穇資萼: Du-bat-Dari-Geol-gi: Back-side Double leg trip
  • 月收儦篣堅謔禹萼: Dari Chigi Hurigi: Leg Kick Takedowns (Takedowns executed by kicks to the legs)
諻儦篣: Bal-Chigi: Foot Sweep (Literal Translation: Foot Attack/Throw)
  • 諻木謔禹萼: Baldwi Chug Hurigi: Inside hook to outside back of heel
  • 木謔禹萼: Andwi Chug Hurigi: Inside hook to Inside of back of heel
  • 諻諈拖∫諰儦篣: Bal-mok Jab-Ame Chigi: Ankle Catch Attack (Single Leg Pickup from Inside or while opponent is behind you)
  • 月 諻儦篣: Naoneun-Bal-Chigi: Inside Sweep to Outside Foot
圉庚諰儦篣: Nuumyeo-Me-Chigi: Sacrifice Throws (Literal Translation: Lie down attack/throw)
  • 諻圉木篣: Bae Dae-Dwichigi: Roll back over throw (foot on stomach, throw overhead)
  • 渠圉庚木篣: Kkeul-Eo-Nuumyeo-Dwijibgi: Roll back flip over (instep to inside of thigh, throw overhead)
  • 諻圉木篣: Yeopui Bae Dae-Dwichigi: Roll back over throw (foot on stomach, to the side)
  • 諟賈收穈儦篣: Meori Gawichigi: Head Scissor takedown
  • 謔禹儦篣: Heori Gawichigi: Hip/waist Scissor takedown
  • 月收穈儦篣: Dari Gawichigi: Leg Scissor takedown
  • 曰到渠刺收篣: Ogeum-Daetteor-Eotteurigi: Duck Under Back Trip (into side slap-fall)
Hah, after reading this title I was expecting some sort of Islamic wrestling I wasn't aware of.
 

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Side note, I had a toddler jumping on me and I accednetly hit the post button, before I could correct the obvious mis-spelling of Korean............. :(

Don't do this stuff when kids are around, just saying.............

I was gonna say, this is a Far Eastern art, not a Middle Eastern art!
 

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Hah, after reading this title I was expecting some sort of Islamic wrestling I wasn't aware of.
That was why I asked whether Korean wrestling came from Chinese wrestling or Japanese Judo. If it came from Chinese wrestling, it then came from the Islamic wrestling (Chinese wrestling = Islamic wrestling).
 
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I was gonna say, this is a Far Eastern art, not a Middle Eastern art!
Lol. I know, right?

It seems silly that when you make a post, you have a grace period to make changes to the body of the post, but they won't let you update the title if need be.

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The majority people who train Chinese wrestling in China are Muslim. My teacher was a Muslim. His teacher was also a Muslim. Same for his teacher's teacher, ...

Interesting. I was not aware of that. Can you provide a thumb nail history of how that happened? I do know that the Persian court provided guards to the Korean royal court at one tiem. I don't remember the date nor dynasty.
 

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Interesting. I was not aware of that. Can you provide a thumb nail history of how that happened? I do know that the Persian court provided guards to the Korean royal court at one tiem. I don't remember the date nor dynasty.
Shuai jiao - Wikipedia

There are 5 major SC branches in China. Besides the Mongolian style is trained by the Mongolian, Shanxi style is trained by the Chinese Yi minority race, the major 3 branches Beijing, Tianjin, and Baoding are all trained by the Chinese minority Muslim race.

The art was introduced to Southern China in the Republican era (see Republic of China (19121949)) after 1911.[1]

Beijing Style (鈭) - This is in essence the lineage from the Manchu Buku style that was practised by the Imperial Guards Brigade, Shan Pu Ying (, literally the Expert in Wrestling Unit). The main characteristic is the use of the legs to kick and off-balance opponents, and the use of arm locks.

Tianjin Style (憭拇揖) - This is the lineage of Ming Dynasty Shuaijiao mixed with Manchu Buku (撣摨). The main characteristic is the use of legs to kick and off-balance, and the use of forearms in blocking and striking.

Baoding Style (靽摰) - This is the lineage that is called Kuai Jiao (敹怨楔) or "Fast Wrestling". The main characteristic is the fast application of technique. Another characteristic is the adaptation of Shaolin Quan from Ping Jingyi, a famous teacher of Shuaijiao who learned Shaolin style from the Meng family of Nanguan County even though he was a Muslim Hui.

Qing Dynasty match, a man has taken control of his rival and is about to throw him off a lei tai.
Shanxi Style (撅梯正) - This is the lineage of Song Dynasty Shuaijiao. It is mainly practised in the counties between the mining city of Datong in northern Shanxi and the provincial capital Taiyuan in central Shanxi. The main characteristic is leg catching techniques, as traditionally wrestlers wear only tight knee-length pants.

Mongolian Style - This style traces its lineage to the wrestling styles of the Dong Hu (銝) Confederation, which included Xianbei, Khitan and Mongol people.
 

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Shuai jiao - Wikipedia

There are 5 major SC branches in China. Besides the Mongolian style is trained by the Mongolian, Shanxi style is trained by the Chinese Yi minority race, the major 3 branches Beijing, Tianjin, and Baoding are all trained by the Chinese minority Muslim race.

The art was introduced to Southern China in the Republican era (see Republic of China (19121949)) after 1911.[1]

Beijing Style (鈭) - This is in essence the lineage from the Manchu Buku style that was practised by the Imperial Guards Brigade, Shan Pu Ying (, literally the Expert in Wrestling Unit). The main characteristic is the use of the legs to kick and off-balance opponents, and the use of arm locks.

Tianjin Style (憭拇揖) - This is the lineage of Ming Dynasty Shuaijiao mixed with Manchu Buku (撣摨). The main characteristic is the use of legs to kick and off-balance, and the use of forearms in blocking and striking.

Baoding Style (靽摰) - This is the lineage that is called Kuai Jiao (敹怨楔) or "Fast Wrestling". The main characteristic is the fast application of technique. Another characteristic is the adaptation of Shaolin Quan from Ping Jingyi, a famous teacher of Shuaijiao who learned Shaolin style from the Meng family of Nanguan County even though he was a Muslim Hui.

Qing Dynasty match, a man has taken control of his rival and is about to throw him off a lei tai.
Shanxi Style (撅梯正) - This is the lineage of Song Dynasty Shuaijiao. It is mainly practised in the counties between the mining city of Datong in northern Shanxi and the provincial capital Taiyuan in central Shanxi. The main characteristic is leg catching techniques, as traditionally wrestlers wear only tight knee-length pants.

Mongolian Style - This style traces its lineage to the wrestling styles of the Dong Hu (銝) Confederation, which included Xianbei, Khitan and Mongol people.
I've been told Mongolian wrestling emphasizes trips and sweeps. I assume since they do not leg grab.
I am unsure though.

Do you have any experience with this?

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I've been told Mongolian wrestling emphasizes trips and sweeps. I assume since they do not leg grab.
I am unsure though.

Do you have any experience with this?

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- The Mongolian wrestling does not allow leg grab.
- It's only 1 round competition.
- They use leather jacket. There is not much place to grab.
- Since they wrestle more often, they are in much better body condition.

I came from the Baoding style (fast hand wrestling) that emphasize on "tearing opponent's grips apart and then attack". Since I have never been in Mongolia, I don't have much experience with their leather jacket.

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