James Bond martial art style

[Kenpoguy123]

So today I watched SPECTRE and before that I rewatched all Daniel Craig's bond movies. The thing I love about his bond is that he actually fights realistically not just one punch and your dead. But what style do you think he was using. There jiu jitsu moves in casino royale and he threw kicks so karate or kicboxing. In his fight with Batista in spectre he threw a lot of punches so a boxing base mainly there. Anyone know what style he trained in for the movies or if it's just a bunch of different styles combined to make him look badass.

Also what did he use in Ian Flemings books

 

[Dirty Dog]

Hollywood movies are not real. Neither are the MA portrayed in them. The "style" in Bond movies, as in virtually all others, is Hollywood-Fu.

 

[Kenpoguy123]

Hollywood movies are not real. Neither are the MA portrayed in them. The "style" in Bond movies, as in virtually all others, is Hollywood-Fu.

Don't agree look at the fight in casino royale on the stairs he caught the guy in a perfect rear naked choke with the hooks in

 

[Dirty Dog]

Don't agree look at the fight in casino royale on the stairs he caught the guy in a perfect rear naked choke with the hooks in

I can teach a child to perform a perfect RNC on a compliant partner with multiple takes.

That doesn't make what they're doing a martial art.

 

[Kenpoguy123]

I can teach a child to perform a perfect RNC on a compliant partner with multiple takes.

That doesn't make what they're doing a martial art.

I'm talking about character here not the actor

 

[Dirty Dog]

Ah. Well that's easier.
The CHARACTER uses the Secret MI-6 Dim Mak Sinanju Ninjer Death Touch/Seduction techniques.

I could tell you more, but then I'd have to either kill you or sleep with you.

 

[lklawson]

There were several stunt and fight choreographers in Casino Royal. Apparently Gary Powell and Bob Anderson, among others worked the film. From what I can tell, they used a mish-mash of various RBSD systems, drawing heavily Krav with a bit of BJJ thrown in for appeal, but blended to look good rather than be most appropriate. Stage Fighting is not the same as real fighting. The primary goals of the two are, in fact, diametrically opposed. In Stage Combat, the goal is to keep everyone safe while telling a story; it has to look good and subtlety is bad because it makes it hard for the audience to follow. It real combat, the goal is to kill the other guy and break stuff off of him; it doesn't have to look good it just has to work and subtlety is very useful because it makes it hard for the opponent to follow.

Now, to dip our toe into real life, the original Bond books were based on Flemming's experiences in forming and administering special operations forces for infiltration, intelligence gathering, behind-the-lines sabotage and operations, and counter-intelligence during WWII. The hand-to-hand training for these forces at the time would have been in line with that of Applegate, Fairbairn, Sykes, et all and would be nearest to the modern lineage from those gentlemen, not to tread too heavily on the whole Defendu vs. Defendo spat. The system(s) themselves were typically a mix of period Judo, Western Wrestling, "Dirty Boxing," and a smattering of basic savatte-like kicking. The knife elements of the systems were usually based from a western Fencing background but sometimes seem to dip into the well of regional European knife systems (Spanish or Italian seem good bets to me). Fairbairn's stick system is a hard nut to crack because it doesn't look much like any Chinese stick system. I'm betting he just took a simple "high percentage" method of holding a billie-club/short stick and then applied a dozen "high percentage" techniques to it then declared it "done."

Peace favor your sword,
Kirk

 

[elder999]

THere's never really anything said anywhere about Bond's training in a specific martial art, except for in "You Only Lice Twice," where he trained, briefly, with Tiger Tanaka's ninjas (a film assisted on by Donn Draeger and with a brief stunt appearance by him and very young Hatsumi Masaki )...the character himself, having been a Royal Navy commando and trained by MI-6, is likely to have trained in judo or jujutsu, and some striking from karate along with plain old CQC hand to hand training......for films, one has to look to the fight choreographer's training to get a feel for the particular flavor of "movie fu," and in this case, the choreographer is Olivier Schneider, the same guy who did "Taken," and he's said that it's a mix of wing chun and silat....which isn't surprising, since that's where his training was before he did movie fu......

 

[clfsean]

It's been said ... but to reiterate ... movie-fu

 

[JowGaWolf]

This is the guy who did the the fight choreography for the James Bond Movie: Olivier Schneider who is said to practice Wing Chun and Pencak Silat. While movie fighting is fake or just a demo of a fighting system. You should be able to recognize some real techniques mixed in with the movie magic of fighting. The amount of real fighting technique shown in the movie depends on the directors desire to keep it as realistic and true to the fighting technique as possible. If you think about it, martial art demos are like a movie fight scene with predetermined movements but real techniques. Then you have the fight scenes that have fancy fighting but no real fighting technique.

 

[Buka]

Fight scenes depend on who the Stunt Coordinator is and the second unit crew he has with him on that particular film.

 

[Tez3]

'James Bond' went to Eton so he would have learnt to play the Eton Wall Game. They do also teach martial arts
Eton College - MartialArts. I imagine as one of if not the most expensive schools in the world they have to give the parents their money's worth lol. Ian Fleming the author went there too.

 

[elder999]

'J I imagine as one of if not the most expensive schools in the world they have to give the parents their money's worth lol. Ian Fleming the author went there too.

At around 33000 pounds a year for 2016, Eton is a bargain-that's less than $51000.

Hotchkiss, where I went, is $55000 for the 2016 year boarding students.....

,,,,,never mind swanky places to warehouse rich kids, like Aiglon College, in Switzerland-you can't Google it, because "if you have to bother asking", etc., etc., etc......
(Mind you, "expensive" doesn't mean "better" at all......)

 

[Star Dragon]

From the books, which I read so many years ago, I recall two descriptions that relate to JB's martial arts knowledge:

In Goldfinger, 007 is busy collecting self-defence techniques (from texts received from other secret services etc) for a manual he sets out to write for his colleagues. If memory serves well, he reads something about hair grabs (as an aside, let me tell you; they work like a charm in reality ). He would then witness a Karate demonstration kindly given him by Goldfinger's murderous assistant (likely meant to intimidate him), something he had never seen before, and is indeed deeply impressed.

In a much later book, not by Ian Fleming (alas, I don't remember its author or title right now), interestingly, 007 warms up for his day by performing "the elegant and deadly moves of Sanchin, the first form of Uechi-ryu Karate." Later in the story, he tries to crush the bad guy's throat by a surprising heel palm strike but only manages to knock him unconscious as he doesn't hit accurately enough and is immediately seized by the villain's staff (I think he should have tried a chop instead, it fits the target much better - but then the story would have ended prematurely).

Hope this helps.

 

[crazydiamond]

Hollywood movies are not real. Neither are the MA portrayed in them. The "style" in Bond movies, as in virtually all others, is Hollywood-Fu.

Some movies feature specific martial arts styles and martial arts instructors. I know the Bourne Identity movies were FMA.

 

[Tez3]

At around 33000 pounds a year for 2016, Eton is a bargain-that's less than $51000.

Hotchkiss, where I went, is $55000 for the 2016 year boarding students.....

,,,,,never mind swanky places to warehouse rich kids, like Aiglon College, in Switzerland-you can't Google it, because "if you have to bother asking", etc., etc., etc......
(Mind you, "expensive" doesn't mean "better" at all......)

Er no, that's just the fees for the tuition, there's also the costs from boarding to the sports lessons, music lessons, boat fees, clubs, trips and uniform you are talking at least three times that much in reality. There's also a registration fee and an acceptance fee. The uniform itself costs a minor fortune lol. Not many school uniforms are top hat tails, and bowtie.

Aiglon college fees are inclusive of sports, music and such like and isn't that expensive.

How a Swiss college lost ultimate seal of approval

 

[elder999]

Er no, that's just the fees for the tuition, there's also the costs from boarding to the sports lessons, music lessons, boat fees, clubs, trips and uniform you are talking at least three times that much in reality. There's also a registration fee and an acceptance fee. The uniform itself costs a minor fortune lol. Not many school uniforms are top hat tails, and bowtie.

Aiglon college fees are inclusive of sports, music and such like and isn't that expensive.

How a Swiss college lost ultimate seal of approval

Yeah, that's kind of what you're looking at for Hotchkiss-of course, the $55K or so covers boarding, but none of those other things (including books, I think-it was that way when I attended). I don't really have any idea what Aiglon college costs, though I did know some kids at Hotchkiss who'd gone there and said that it cost more.......that was back in the early 70's, though, so who can say how much things changed.....

 

[Tez3]

Yeah, that's kind of what you're looking at for Hotchkiss-of course, the $55K or so covers boarding, but none of those other things (including books, I think-it was that way when I attended). I don't really have any idea what Aiglon college costs, though I did know some kids at Hotchkiss who'd gone there and said that it cost more.......that was back in the early 70's, though, so who can say how much things changed.....

To get your son into Eton you have to put his name down at birth, it helps if you have had generations of your family go there preferably back to the 15th century. of course it has all the things one expects of an institution designed to make it's pupils feel even more entitled and superior than they already are. It prepares the boys to become world leaders, reigning monarchs, heads of armies and even the occasional dictator. James Bond actually is a very good example of an Eton Old Boy, by all accounts Ian Fleming was a similar character.
James Bond no doubt learnt his military skills including unarmed combat with Eton's Combined Cadet Force (The Eton Rifles) which rather scarily seems to actually do military training to a degree that the rest of the Cadets don't.

 

[elder999]

To get your son into Eton you have to put his name down at birth, it helps if you have had generations of your family go there preferably back to the 15th century. of course it has all the things one expects of an institution designed to make it's pupils feel even more entitled and superior than they already are. It prepares the boys to become world leaders, reigning monarchs, heads of armies and even the occasional dictator. James Bond actually is a very good example of an Eton Old Boy, by all accounts Ian Fleming was a similar character.
James Bond no doubt learnt his military skills including unarmed combat with Eton's Combined Cadet Force (The Eton Rifles) which rather scarily seems to actually do military training to a degree that the rest of the Cadets don't.

You didn't say oldest or most exclusive, or even best, you said "most expensive," which it surely is not.

Known a few Eton students in my time, including more than one 4th generation.If I remember correctly, one was once one of Stephen Hawking's assistants, but another reminded me a lot of George W. Bush....they were all impressive, in one way or the other.

 

[Tez3]

You didn't say oldest or most exclusive, or even best, you said "most expensive," which it surely is not.

Known a few Eton students in my time, including more than one 4th generation.If I remember correctly, one was once one of Stephen Hawking's assistants, but another reminded me a lot of George W. Bush....they were all impressive, in one way or the other.

Actually I didn't say it was the most expensive, read what I wrote again. I said it was 'one of the most if not the most expensive schools in the world.'