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On another thread, Nobody Important posed the following question:
Clearly, and feel free to argue, Wing Chun as a fighting art has failed miserably when put to the test. Perhaps Wing Chun isn't supposed to look like your doing the forms when fighting, but more importantly, about learning how to refine gross motor skill to combined motor skill and fine motor skill when under duress. Is the art of Wing Chun being used wrong?
It's an old question, but one worthy of further discussion. What are your thoughts?
yes and no.
But mostly yes.
Ok. A basic premis of fighting is that straight punches beat round punches. So if I am going to kick off a fight that has an element of ambush or verbal. Hitting the guy off the bat with three or four straight punches down the pipe works pretty well.
So lets go to the street. And someone comes towards you with a bit of the stink eye. And when he gets in range you drill him it works well.
But if the mechanics of the fight change at all and you hang on to that same mechanic you start to fight a loosing battle.
An extended toe to toe depends on cardio and your ability to be hit. If chun does not develop that. Or you just dont want to be involved in a meat grinder. As soon as your strikes stop becoming effective you need to GTFO. and start using a different method of striking.
Eg. a hockey fight.
Wing Chun doesn't and will stick to the center line and forward pressure while considering what they are doing will work against a more athletic harder guy.
If you are fighting at range. Straight boxing 1,2s have more juice behind them and more range.
So you try to enter with a shorter less powerful punch into a guy with a longer more powerful punch you better have some crafty foot work.
Ok. Crafty foot work. Honestly running straight at a guy doesn't count. You seed to bait people into overcommiting so you have time to enter and throw. Baiting people generally requires you to fight going backwards. And escape when things start to go south. this would mean a lot more moving off line and even god forbid some head movement.
This is without mentioning zero takedown defence. Zero ground work.