- Jun 3, 2018
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Would you guys know how to disarm someone with a gun?
Also if you fail at the disarm....
Yeah...goes to not being a "good option"Also if you fail at the disarm....
Be very careful with blank rounds and make certain you use a plugged barrel.And also, not a thing that I think even most police departments do (and harder for a school), you should have a blank round in a plugged barrel to get used to the fact that the weapon will likely fire and make a lot of noise as well as kick a bit.
Yeah...goes to not being a "good option"
Be very careful with blank rounds and make certain you use a plugged barrel.
Most blank rounds use a plastic or wax type of wad that can seriously hurt and even kill.
Use a Battlefield or Live Fire specific type of blank designed for live fire training. These rounds have no wadding to be projected from the muzzle. However, most are designed to be used 18 inches from the muzzle.
As to kick back when grabbing a firearm it is something to be aware of but there is very little that will be transmitted into you. Loud noise, yes. Powerful kick back...very little, most is directed toward the person pulling the trigger. On a semi auto pistol I can hold the slide between my thumb and index finger with ease much less using the whole hand.
It's not the noise or kick back to be concerned with but where is the muzzle pointed.
As with most all things 'training' is a must.Bolded; Good for you. But I suspect most people could not, both because of the kickback (depending on the weapon off course) and the accompanying noise, along with the stress and desire to escape. Of course, even without practicing with the noise, a lot of practice will make you do it right, noise, kickback or whatever.
But I do agree with care when using blanks. Back in the day, when I was in the infantry, as I recall, our blanks had plastic or wax or something. Now the grenade launcher round as crimped.
I did some handgun training at a range once that had mock firearms with an air cartridge in them that created a loud noise and kickback. I don't know where you'd get something like that, but I'm sure it would be much, much safer than a real gun with a blank.
On a semi auto pistol I can hold the slide between my thumb and index finger with ease much less using the whole hand.
Good for you. But I suspect most people could not, both because of the kickback (depending on the weapon off course) and the accompanying noise,
On the majority of small to medium calibre gas operated semi auto pistols the biggest contributor to recoil (or kickback if you will) is the mass of the slide moving.
The force exerted by the gas pressure to make the slide move really isn't that large, and I'd say that if you're capable of lifting a pint to drink it you'd have sufficient hand strength to stop the slide, well, sliding.
Note, that doesn't stop the gun firing that time, but it stops it self loading another round.
Probably not a high value move, but if you can grab and redirect that first shot (and hold the slide with that grab) you've effectively just turned a firearm into a knuckle duster.
Don't a lot of (edit) techniques incorporate that into the move; directing the muzzle away from you as you seek control of the weapon?
I can't speak for very many of the techniques, but the ones I've seen don't seem to put much weight on the grab part - it appears to be more redirect and control the arm to then control the weapon.
Wow, I didn't know that. I would always want to control the weapon first so that if possible, it is never pointed at me during the rest of the technique. Wow.
Like I say, I have very little experience in how the techniques are 'usually' taught - I can only go off the few times I've personally seen someone demonstrate in a civilian capacity (and the comedy of YouTube)...
In those instances it was to deflect the arm, wrap it, then turn around to use both your hands to unhook their fingers from the weapon (no mention of what about their other arm and the fact you're stood there with your back to their front).
It was basically exactly what they also showed for a knife disarm...
Of course, they had a 100% success rate.