Ex-Porn star reads to kids

[JohnEdward]

So it all boils down to the parents 'knowing' her. And frankly, I find that funny.
I would have known who she was if it wasn't for the 'pure' minds pointing out her previous genre of acting.
So that leaves the question: How come those parents know?
And I think the answer is clear. :lfao:

Well there is no better grapevine than that of an elementary school parents and kids (older siblings) with the power of Facebook and Tweeter. Ms. Grey did Tweet it. And I am sure someone leaked the story to the press, i.e. her agent....?

 

[Chris Parker]

Tez, I wouldn't think that the school district paid anything for this. I'm sure that this is volunteer work for the celebrities for PR purposes. Get some face time in the news and such.

I'm not so sure of the "face time" motivation here, though, Steve. I think with Sasha it was far more genuinely about her wanting to do it for the kids, having press there wouldn't help that cause, and the way this came out was a gossip site watching Sasha's twitter account. I mean, the initial story in the OP here has the parents reacting well after the fact, possibly only being aware of the reality when asked about it by the news media.

Mostly my own gut feeling. Earlier in this thread there was a list of adult film stars that have made a successful transition (to one degree or another) to more mainstream entertainment. That list was all women. Maybe the list specifically looked at women? I don't know. Anyway, the only male porn start I can think of that has done much mainstream stuff is Ron Jeremy pretty much doing cameos as himself and always as some sort of gag or joke.

Honestly, that's because women are the focus, and in a very real way, controlling and most valued part of the industry. Many of the women, particularly at the higher end of the industry, are in control of most aspects of their career. They can say who they will work with, what they will and won't do, make their own rules, and often move into production and directing. It can be a very real career path when done properly. Yes, there is also the highly negative side as well, but that's another case study. The intelligent ones tend to go more for the former path.

In terms of guys, they get paid less, have less control over who they work with, and so on. Very few have the "staying power" to generate a real career the way the women can, and that will reflect on which side of the gender division the greater number of career-driven people will be on.

Additionally, as Granfire suggests, the women are more "high visibility", which lends itself to a higher chance of using that background to move into mainstream work (again, Sasha is far from the first), whereas the guys would need to start from the bottom again (my, there's a lot of double entendres that just happen to come up when you least expect them, huh?). This lack of visibility would lessen the amount of outcry, really. I mean, if there was someone like Mike Horner was doing the reading, I doubt many would recognise him, or that there would be anyone watching his twitter to reveal it in the first place. And Mike was a lot more prolific, with a much longer career than Sasha...

 

[Steve]

Agreed, that is the way it should be. But here we have a school that in the news reports failed to let parents know, and handled the situation completely incompetently, they knew she was a controversial public figure for many parents, not just extreme conservative right winger bible thumpers - whether you agree with them or not they have a right not to have Ms. Grey read to their kids it that is what they wish. I am not saying Ms. Grey should have never been there reading. It is the way the school was irresponsible etc. mishandling of the situation. For example, if I was Jewish, I sure in hell wouldn't want Mel Gibson reading to my kid. Or if I was an abused wife, or worked helping abused women, I wouldn't want Mr. Gibson reading to my kids. I would be furious with the school if they did the same thing in Ms.Grey's case. If I wasn't Jewish, or believed Mel's abusive behavior didn't effect me or my kid, I wouldn't possibly be upset how the school handled the affair. Or Mr. Gibson reading to my kids. But the school should have done it's job properly, and it didn't. Otherwise, there wouldn't be news coverage of parents making a "stink." Which in turn gives Ms. Grey into a possible opportunist, as would it be for any actor at the same stage of their career; take advantage of the publicity.

The fact is more people now know who she is, is aware of her mainstream and porn work, more people probably are following her Tweets, clearly a publicity tool used my many movies stars, i.e. the Ashton Kutcher tweeting about the Penn State case. He is now on 2 1/2 men replacing Sheen, I wonder what the ratings are lately...?

I disagree with just about every assertion you make. The school district did inform the parents, in my estimation. They did exactly what I would have expected. I don't think they mishandled anything.

Mel Gibson, for what it's worth, would probably not pass a routine background check. But if, as a parent, the schools said, "Hey, Mel Gibson is going to be in the classroom on 11/16," it would be my prerogative to excuse my child from class that day. Just the same as in this situation. You're entire argument centers around the, IMO, mistaken belief that parents were deceived and had no influence. I disagree completely.

 

[JohnEdward]

I disagree with just about every assertion you make. The school district did inform the parents, in my estimation. They did exactly what I would have expected. I don't think they mishandled anything.

Mel Gibson, for what it's worth, would probably not pass a routine background check. But if, as a parent, the schools said, "Hey, Mel Gibson is going to be in the classroom on 11/16," it would be my prerogative to excuse my child from class that day. Just the same as in this situation. You're entire argument centers around the, IMO, mistaken belief that parents were deceived and had no influence. I disagree completely.

Well I could be wrong. Let's find some facts that prove me wrong. I fully support that. I didn't find anything that refuted the news reports implying the parents where not contacted, but I didn't dig too deep, I went with the news reports from a web search. Maybe we can contact a parent from the school and ask, or find other reports that state the parents where or where not contacted first by the school?

 

[Steve]

You don't think a note went out to the parents informing them that Sasha Grey was going to read to the class? An email? Some kind of correspondence? I get those all the time from my school district. Notes from the district, from the school administration, from the teachers... there's always something coming home. In elementary school, it was a lot of fliers that went home. As the schools embraced technology and started looking at budget reductions, they've transitioned mostly to emails now that my oldest are in high school. But the communication is there.

I just can't imagine that a guest speaker of any kind happened without notification to the kids. And to be clear, if it didn't happen, I think the school dropped the ball not because she's an ex-porn star. Rather, it's because they aren't communicating as they should with parents. Does the distinction make sense to you?

 

[Tez3]

You don't think a note went out to the parents informing them that Sasha Grey was going to read to the class? An email? Some kind of correspondence? I get those all the time from my school district. Notes from the district, from the school administration, from the teachers... there's always something coming home. In elementary school, it was a lot of fliers that went home. As the schools embraced technology and started looking at budget reductions, they've transitioned mostly to emails now that my oldest are in high school. But the communication is there.

I just can't imagine that a guest speaker of any kind happened without notification to the kids. And to be clear, if it didn't happen, I think the school dropped the ball not because she's an ex-porn star. Rather, it's because they aren't communicating as they should with parents. Does the distinction make sense to you?

I imagine the school would be keen to let parents know whenever it had someone coming to read, it shows they are taking part in the scheme and lets parents know that the school is doing 'something'. I don't know any school that doesn't try to blow it's trumpet this way so the odds are on that the parents knew who was coming. I'm guessing a couple of people picked up on it, disapproved and started the ball rolling. Probably at a guess the same parents that don't want any ex education in schools and no science about dinosaurs or evolution.

 

[granfire]

I imagine the school would be keen to let parents know whenever it had someone coming to read, it shows they are taking part in the scheme and lets parents know that the school is doing 'something'. I don't know any school that doesn't try to blow it's trumpet this way so the odds are on that the parents knew who was coming. I'm guessing a couple of people picked up on it, disapproved and started the ball rolling. Probably at a guess the same parents that don't want any ex education in schools and no science about dinosaurs or evolution.

you sometimes creep me out. Are you sure yo are not living next door from me?!

But to me the most interesting aspect was the outrage over this lady once upon a time doing pr0n, OH EM GEE how dare the school, while on the other hand we have a state and half the nation defend the ongoing vile actions of a man entrusted with kids on a daily basis. Not to forget the decades of coverup!

 

[crushing]

This is my take. A note went out that Sasha Grey, actress of the HBO hit show Entourage was coming to read to the children. The parents that actually knew of her previous work as an adult film star did not want to raise a fuss and admit they were familiar with that previous work. It was only after someone else reported on her previous career that they could feign outrage along with those that really didn't know, but care. The ones screaming loudest about it after the fact are probably most familiar with her body of work.

 

[jks9199]

I will say if Ms. Grey wanted publicity she should have done something else, do what many stars are doing to get publicity, Say something horrible happened in their lives and write about it, be seen with someone else controversial or join the Protesters. Join the church of Scientology. Do something else over the top, kiss her brother, drink blood, adopt a bunch of an African or Southern Pacific children and have the nannies raise, like Jolie. God knows she has surpassed Madonna. But don't use kids. My last statement does sound conflicting....hmmm....maybe not adopt kids out of the country.

I really don't know Ms. Grey's intentions or what she was thinking when agreeing to read to the school kids. Maybe it wasn't a good idea and some forethought should have been applied by both Ms. Grey and the School.

Heaven forbid that maybe, just maybe, she wanted to READ TO KIDS to help get them excited about READING! No way, couldn't be that.

Your attitude towards her, based on her past profession, reads through loud and clear. Might I suggest that you consider the people that Jesus Christ chose to associate with rather famously included tax collectors and prostitutes. It seems that He may have been able to accept that they may have reformed...

 

[Carol]

Heaven forbid that maybe, just maybe, she wanted to READ TO KIDS to help get them excited about READING! No way, couldn't be that.

Your attitude towards her, based on her past profession, reads through loud and clear. Might I suggest that you consider the people that Jesus Christ chose to associate with rather famously included tax collectors and prostitutes. It seems that He may have been able to accept that they may have reformed...

I also don't think she chased the kids on to a bus and raced away to a place off school grounds so she could read to them unsupervised. I think she read to the kids in their classroom with the teacher present and watching...but also having a rare moment to breathe and not be on center stage.

She read to kids in Compton, and tweeted how sweet they were. I bet more kids in Compton need adults that will take a moment to believe in them.

 

[JohnEdward]

Heaven forbid that maybe, just maybe, she wanted to READ TO KIDS to help get them excited about READING! No way, couldn't be that.

Your attitude towards her, based on her past profession, reads through loud and clear. Might I suggest that you consider the people that Jesus Christ chose to associate with rather famously included tax collectors and prostitutes. It seems that He may have been able to accept that they may have reformed...

That is same thing Bob is arguing too, and I could be wrong. Am not closed off to being wrong. There is a possibility she did it from the goodness of her heart. Just because she is an ex-porn star doesn't mean she hates kids. It also doesn't me she is recruiting for either business. But she is a mainstream "B" list movie star, and you have to consider her motives where for publicity. Now was it to change her image, or was it to capitalize upon her career. Don't know, but I am not going to rule it out, specially since she is the movie business and that is a common and necessary thing to due to get future jobs, get publicity. Have people know you, get controversy going, i.e. Ashton Kutcher. The list is as long as a city block on stars who have done that. Also what other charity work has she done with children as a mainstream actress? What other work is she planning in the future? Entertainers and Politicians you always have to question their motives, because both fields are dependent on people's attention, and liking you. I will gladly admit am wrong if the facts show otherwise. Until then it is my educated guess that was her motives. All roads point toward Rome.

 

[JohnEdward]

I think of the mess the school possibly dealing with like law suits, and all the unwanted attention it is getting. Parents coming up to the school rattling cages. I am sure it has cause tensions between parents and admin. Parents and families, between other parents and families. The political side that is going to be waged against the school. Ugly.

I am considering or entertaining the thought of the possibility of things might be different if it was a male. Don't know, but since it wasn't so...hmmmm......I don't know... Just looking at all sides.

 

[JohnEdward]

you sometimes creep me out. Are you sure yo are not living next door from me?!

But to me the most interesting aspect was the outrage over this lady once upon a time doing pr0n, OH EM GEE how dare the school, while on the other hand we have a state and half the nation defend the ongoing vile actions of a man entrusted with kids on a daily basis. Not to forget the decades of coverup!

Be careful with what you said a friendly note. Some can take that and say she is influencing kids into the porn business, kind of like what Bill echoed earlier going into the porn industry. People who feel women hold highly motherhood and a woman's influence upon both sexes of children, may see what you said as proof to their fears or concerns. I am not taking just the right-wing bible thumpers. You have to look at the demographic of that school. Many families look upon women as playing a major role in kids lives. If you found, am too lazy to do it, the stats of how many women vs men teach grades 1-3, I am willing to bet women really out number the men, say 20- 1 or even more. We can't assume it isn't just the right-wing bible thumper getting all upset. It could be a variety of people getting up set and seeing women influence children the greatest. I am sure there is scientific studies on that, that show women are strongly influential on both sexes of children. Again a friendly, look out.

 

[Chris Parker]

That is same thing Bob is arguing too, and I could be wrong. Am not closed off to being wrong. There is a possibility she did it from the goodness of her heart. Just because she is an ex-porn star doesn't mean she hates kids. It also doesn't me she is recruiting for either business. But she is a mainstream "B" list movie star, and you have to consider her motives where for publicity. Now was it to change her image, or was it to capitalize upon her career. Don't know, but I am not going to rule it out, specially since she is the movie business and that is a common and necessary thing to due to get future jobs, get publicity. Have people know you, get controversy going, i.e. Ashton Kutcher. The list is as long as a city block on stars who have done that. Also what other charity work has she done with children as a mainstream actress? What other work is she planning in the future? Entertainers and Politicians you always have to question their motives, because both fields are dependent on people's attention, and liking you. I will gladly admit am wrong if the facts show otherwise. Until then it is my educated guess that was her motives. All roads point toward Rome.

(Sigh... if only I you were reading my posts, John....)

The problem with this whole post is that there is no evidence to support your position, whereas the bulk of the evidence does support you being wrong. You just don't want to see it as it conflicts with your ideas. Your guess as to Sasha's motives is not educated, honestly, it's biased from the outset, and goes against even the evidence you have provided yourself. All roads may lead to Rome, but that doesn't help if you're heading in the wrong direction...

 

[granfire]

Be careful with what you said a friendly note. Some can take that and say she is influencing kids into the porn business, kind of like what Bill echoed earlier going into the porn industry. People who feel women hold highly motherhood and a woman's influence upon both sexes of children, may see what you said as proof to their fears or concerns. I am not taking just the right-wing bible thumpers. You have to look at the demographic of that school. Many families look upon women as playing a major role in kids lives. If you found, am too lazy to do it, the stats of how many women vs men teach grades 1-3, I am willing to bet women really out number the men, say 20- 1 or even more. We can't assume it isn't just the right-wing bible thumper getting all upset. It could be a variety of people getting up set and seeing women influence children the greatest. I am sure there is scientific studies on that, that show women are strongly influential on both sexes of children. Again a friendly, look out.

and the lady who comes in for an hour, maybe 2 has major impact on kids turning them into raging sex machines exactly how?

After all, we are not talking about teens, but 8 yo at best.
Think porn making is transmitted via sublimeral messages, reading Dr Zeuss?

 

[Chris Parker]

As a result of this thread, I've added Sasha Grey to my facebook group, and, while this thread isn't referenced, the controversy surrounding the subject is mentioned. Sasha mentions the book she read, one "Dog Breath" by Dav Pilkey. This page has a Nascar driver (Bill Elliot) reading it out to a group of kids: http://www.gpbkids.org/georgiareadmore/ Just scroll through the books to find it....

Yep, that'll turn the kids into porn stars, sure as rain....

 

[Tez3]

(Sigh... if only I you were reading my posts, John....)

The problem with this whole post is that there is no evidence to support your position, whereas the bulk of the evidence does support you being wrong. You just don't want to see it as it conflicts with your ideas. Your guess as to Sasha's motives is not educated, honestly, it's biased from the outset, and goes against even the evidence you have provided yourself. All roads may lead to Rome, but that doesn't help if you're heading in the wrong direction...

I have to agree with you Chris, nor do I understand why Granfire should be careful with what she says?

 

[Bob Hubbard]

Well, with so many making something out of nothing, Ms Grey is also in my lists as well....the only person in the porn industry I might add. So there's your PR at work. She's gained a number of supporters as a result of closed minds and avoidable hoopla.

 

[JohnEdward]

and the lady who comes in for an hour, maybe 2 has major impact on kids turning them into raging sex machines exactly how?

After all, we are not talking about teens, but 8 yo at best.
Think porn making is transmitted via sublimeral messages, reading Dr Zeuss?

Only if Dr. Zeuss is the porn name of who reads:
I think I will call it Jerkin the gherkin.
"And NOW comes an act of Enormous Enormance!
No former performers performed this performance!"

:lol:

 

[granfire]

Only if Dr. Zeuss is the porn name of who reads:
I think I will call it Jerkin the gherkin.
"And NOW comes an act of Enormous Enormance!
No former performers performed this performance!"

:lol:

No wonder you oppose the Lovely Ms Grey to read to your kids....
you can't gather your mind out of the gutter long enough to even look just below her eyes....

:lfao: