Classical Chinese language issue

[TSDTexan]

詠春 vs 永春

yǒng chūn
literally: "spring chant",
[also romanized as Ving Tsun or Wing Tsun in Ip Man lineages]

Or
永春 Literally: "eternal springtime"

So anyone wanna venture opinion as to what is going on here?

 

[mograph]

I'll take a crack at it: As the legend goes, isn't yǒng chūn the name of the founder, and if so, looking for a connection between the name and the art might be a bit of a mug's game? Alternately, if the founder were legendary, it wouldn't be a stretch to imagine someone's coming up with those characters (or words) to create a female master.

 

[clfsean]

Yim Wing Chun is the figurehead/legendary founder of Wing Chun Kuen. Her name was spelled with the characters for Eternal Spring. According to legend ...

There's a village in Fujian named Yong Chun where the White Crane practiced there has a striking resemblance to Wing Chun but isn't what most consider "Wing Chun".

Look at Hong Quan ... Flood Boxing, Red Boxing, Hero Boxing and also the family name for Hung Hei Goon, legendary founder of Kung Kuen/Hung Ga ... Hong Quan. All correct & all use different characters.

 

[Xue Sheng]

yǒng chūn = Mandarin
Wing Chun = Cantonese

 

[TSDTexan]

yǒng chūn = Mandarin
Wing Chun = Cantonese

Which one is the devil language?

 

[clfsean]

Which one is the devil language?

Depends on who you ask ... patriots or traitors ...

 

[Xue Sheng]

Which one is the devil language?

I always jokingly referred to Cantonese as "Devil Language"... but these days, I'd be hard pressed to actually figure out which one is "Devil Language"

 

[TSDTexan]

I always jokingly referred to Cantonese as "Devil Language"... but these days, I'd be hard pressed to actually figure out which one is "Devil Language"

Fujian Hakka?

 

[Xue Sheng]

Fujian Hakka?

Nope...I am only referring to Mandarin and Cantonese...... Fujian Hakka is just unintelligible to anyone who does not speak Fujian Hakka...so I have no way of knowing if it qualifies as Devil language or not

 

[TSDTexan]

Nope...I am only referring to Mandarin and Cantonese...... Fujian Hakka is just unintelligible to anyone who does not speak Fujian Hakka...so I have no way of knowing if it qualifies as Devil language or not

Only devils understand devils. Lol. I suspect that every one views some other group as thier devil and their own group as angels etc.

However, I see within humanity as a whole greatness and falleness. Strength and weaknesses. Courage and cowardice. And I find the only real enemy is myself. And only the hero within me can defeat the villain inside me.

 

[Xue Sheng]

Only devils understand devils. Lol. I suspect that every one views some other group as thier devil and their own group as angels etc.

However, I see within humanity as a whole greatness and falleness. Strength and weaknesses. Courage and cowardice. And I find the only real enemy is myself. And only the hero within me can defeat the villain inside me.

Nah, it had a lot more to do with clfsean and myself bustin' on each other... but Fujian is still pretty much unintelligible to anyone out side of Fujian

 

[clfsean]

True ... local Fujianese is a critter unto itself & isn't for the faint of heart.