Bruce Lee Questions.

[wingchun100]

2 and a half max. A physical specimen but not very knowledgeable. An opinion of Ed Parker Sr. and Wally jay to name two. Gene LeBell as well who began to teach him grappling after an introduction by Parker Sr. and his signing on to be the primary stuntman on the Green Hornet.

I was discussing the fact that he didn't complete the system with my Sifu. (We are from the Yip Man lineage; our Sigung is Yip Ching.) Judging from what he has seen, he thinks Bruce might have learned all of Sil Lum Tao, MAYBE Chum Kiu, and hardly any of the wooden dummy form. However, he also said, "He might not have learned the whole system, but he had a solid grasp of the concepts. He was very smart."

 

[Stickgrappler]

From magazine articles - didn't BL also study some WCK with William Cheung, Wong Shun Leung, and Hawkins Cheung?

 

[wingchun100]

From magazine articles - didn't BL also study some WCK with William Cheung, Wong Shun Leung, and Hawkins Cheung?

William Cheung was a contemporary of his under Yip Man. Jesse Glover (one of Bruce's first American students) said Bruce was never really interested in forms; he always studied people that he thought were the best fighters, and William Cheung was one of the people he watched. And yes, he did also train with the other two.

 

[Stickgrappler]

^^^

so it's possible he got some of the higher level WCK from the 3 of them, or at the very least watching them fight

 

[geezer]

^^^...so it's possible he got some of the higher level WCK from the 3 of them, or at the very least watching them fight

More than possible. In spite of always preaching that a student should be patient and should wait for their sifu to teach them new techniques when they are truly ready, every instructor I met from Hong Kong learned everything they could as fast as they could from anyone who would show them. Then, maybe if they hung around, they got taught the info formerly with corrections and refinements by their sifu.

 

[simplicity]

Wong Shun Leung was Bruce Lee's WC instructor and when he came to America, than he learned Red Boat Wing Chun from Fook Yueng....

 

[simplicity]

By the way, Jesse Glover was a good friend of mine...

 

[TransformationWell]

Lee studied with plenty of other people (example: tae kwon do master Jhoon Rhee), but he never called anyone else his "teacher" other than Yip Man.

That is ABSOLUTELY not true!

 

[Kung Fu Boi]

That is ABSOLUTELY not true!

It is no surprise that many people go by no sources and say that Bruce called no one else teacher. Especially from a wing chun person under the ip man lineage.

By the way, if you are interested in learning more about Bruce lee and JKD, I have a growing collection of 70+ articles on Bruce, JKD, JKD training methods and interviews. Feel free to use/share with others.

Link to collection: Internet Archive collection

 

[TransformationWell]

It is no surprise that many people go by no sources and say that Bruce called no one else teacher. Especially from a wing chun person under the ip man lineage.

By the way, if you are interested in learning more about Bruce lee and JKD, I have a growing collection of 70+ articles on Bruce, JKD, JKD training methods and interviews. Feel free to use/share with others.

Link to collection: Internet Archive collection

No, that's ok. I lived in Seattle, Washington for almost 11 years and trained with the late Jesse R. Glover(Bruces first student and assistant instructor). His main instructor(in terms of years he studied with him--not necessarily how popular the instructor was) was the late Grandmaster Yeung Gao Fook--who taught Bruce Red Boat Opera Wing Chun. Bruce studied for over THREE TIMES AS LONG w/ Fook Yueng as he did with Yip Man or any of his disciples. He (Yueng) was a member of the Red Boat Opera Troupe and an actor **in addition** to being a martial artist. It was he who got Bruce the job as a dishwasher in the late Ruby Chows' Restaurant(GM Yueng was one of the cooks). When all f-cking hell was breaking loose in HK, Bruces father contacted YGF and asked him to take Bruce in when he got to the states. GM Yeung also taught Bruce some Hung Ga as well as Northern and Southern Mantis. I have also met Sifu Leroy Garcia(at Jesses' funeral) another early Bruce student and others. Btw..GM Yueng eschewed the limelight and he and Yip Man knew eachother. He did not capitalize on his relationship w/ Bruce because he did not want to create friction w/ GM Yip man or anyone in his camp(which was wise). Bruces father and GM Yueng were friends since childhood and he was actually Bruces' godfather.

In the big picture, does it really matter if Bruce used the word "teacher" or not? He learned from more people you might think!

I also know the real story on why Bruce called it Jeet Kune Do(which is not what people think). So....you were saying?

 

[TransformationWell]

I'm not doubting you, but do you have any documentation as to Bruce's studying of mantis?

7sm

There is. Yes. Actually from 2 different instructors.