oneenlighten
White Belt
Hi all,
I recently saw this on youtube sparring between a boxer and a kungu practitioner.
How realistic is this?
I recently saw this on youtube sparring between a boxer and a kungu practitioner.
Boxing vs kungfu how effective
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Flying Crane
Sr. Grandmaster
How realistic? Well whatever happened and was caught on camera, did happen. So I guess that event was realistic. Assuming it was not deliberately faked, then it wasn't just realistic, it was real.
Is that what you are asking?
Is that what you are asking?
drop bear
Sr. Grandmaster
Lol.
Flatfish
Black Belt
Alright, others are starting funning. So: it's not much about style vs style as it is about how you train. The other big factor is personal: some people are good fighters without training, others train for years and might even be good at competitions/sparring within whatever rule set but could not fight their way out of a paper bag in a self defense situation. What are you interested in?
CB Jones
Senior Master
Midnight-shadow
3rd Black Belt
It's real in the fact that the fight isn't scripted or staged like a fight in a film (or at least doesn't look like it anyway). If you are asking whether a boxer is likely to beat a kungfu practitioner on a "street fight", it basically comes down to how good the boxer's technique is vs how well the kungfu artist can exploit the weaknesses of boxing. Since boxers typically only train for the sport, they aren't very used to defending against low kicks, and you'll notice in the video that the boxer takes multiple kicks to his legs which over time will weaken him by affecting his stability and footwork. Of course on the flip side the boxer should have better punches and head movement since they practice those more.
lol.. the Kung Fu wasn't exactly good either lol. Stuff like that makes me feel really happy about my training as a kung fu student lol.
An experienced boxer wouldn't have turned his back to his opponent like that. An experienced boxer would have taken a slap in exchange for the opportunity to land a hard body shot or headshot.
The real question should probably be are the 2 fighters a good representation of the systems. I can' only speak of the boxing and tell you that the boxer in the video is not a good representation of boxing.
There is a difference between being a boxer and being a guy that is wearing boxing gloves.
That guy looked like he had never even sparred before.
He's no more a boxer then I am a Jedi when I pick up a plastic light sabre.
That guy looked like he had never even sparred before.
He's no more a boxer then I am a Jedi when I pick up a plastic light sabre.
Hanzou
Grandmaster
Your typical boxer isn't going turtle up into a little ball like a child when you advance on them. They're going to either flank to either side to counter you, go for a clinch, or punch you dead in your face.
Additionally, I caught "the boxer" lifting his leg up multiple times as if he was going for some sort of side kick as the monk advanced on him. Boxers don't do that, and I don't think even kick boxers do that.
So yeah, the guy with gloves on his hands isn't a boxer. I wish Kung fu practitioners would fight against real representatives from other styles instead of consistently doing nonsense like this.
Additionally, I caught "the boxer" lifting his leg up multiple times as if he was going for some sort of side kick as the monk advanced on him. Boxers don't do that, and I don't think even kick boxers do that.
So yeah, the guy with gloves on his hands isn't a boxer. I wish Kung fu practitioners would fight against real representatives from other styles instead of consistently doing nonsense like this.
I do long fist and my long fist doesn't look like that when I spar. My assumption is that if we knew what system of Kung Fu he's actually we will probably come to the conclusion that he's not a good representation of that system either.
Long fist systems are usually very well rooted and not hoping up for the sake of trying to hit someone in the head.
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
QFT
Exactly
Also, just to clarify "Kung Fu" is a category that all Chinese martial arts is categorized under. Kung Fu is not a style
Well, most boxers wouldn't be any good against Tyson, either.
That said, I'm not sure that guy was a boxer. There was some movement there that didn't look like it was habitual for someone doing Western boxing.
He could be a boxer. He's just a bad representative of a boxer. The question for must of us will always be are we a good representation of what we do. Sometimes we are good at the training side of things and bad at the competitive side of things. This guy lacked a lot of basics and I think the other guy that is some kind of martial artist lack the basics that one would expect to see of a beginner. I wouldn't use either one of those guys to represent either Kung Fu and Boxing. I would never say to someone "Hey come do kung fu or boxing. This is what it looks like." Then show that video
I'll say he's definitely not only a boxer. There's movement that looks trained (though perhaps early in training), but doesn't appear to be from boxing. I didn't see anything that looked like a boxer with a few months of training and sparring. Some of that may have been an attempt to adjust to the opponent, but I'd have expected planned adjustments to fall apart when he started getting hit, and the boxing to come out. I saw no boxing - no taking advantage of the elbows being up. No driving in. No covering to get past the flurry of high strikes. I don't think he has any significant training in Western boxing.
