BJJ is my Passion

[Unkogami]

If a person wants to be a martial artist (in the sense of someone who is learning how to fight) and they are only studying BJJ and their BJJ class only covers ground grappling - then they are going to be severely limited. They will quite likely run into problems if they ever get into a real fight.
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I'd find the reverse more likely.

 

[Unkogami]

... Just like Sumo or fencing or volleyball or rock climbing it can be what it is for its own sake.
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You don't think sumo is suitable for fighting?

 

[Oily Dragon]

You don't think sumo is suitable for fighting?

Everything but the excess 100-200 lbs part.

Don't get me wrong, I love sumo style. But watching two obese men grappling is like watching "My 600 Pound Life" over and over again. I just get tired and go to bed.

 

[Tony Dismukes]

I'd find the reverse more likely.

I don't quite follow. You think that a BJJ practitioner who includes striking, clinching, and takedowns in his training will have more of a problem in a real fight than one who only practices groundfighting?

You don't think sumo is suitable for fighting?

Speaking as an amateur Sumo practitioner, I think Sumo can help develop certain skills and attributes which are useful in a fight. But that's not what it's for. Sumo practitioners are training to compete in the dohyo, not worrying about "hey, this wide stance leaves me open for a groin kick" or "I need to work more on my knife disarms."

 

[Unkogami]

Everything but the excess 100-200 lbs part.

Don't get me wrong, I love sumo style. But watching two obese men grappling is like watching "My 600 Pound Life" over and over again. I just get tired and go to bed.

If you stick with it long enough, you will start to see and appreciate the skill and technique.

 

[Unkogami]

I don't quite follow. You think that a BJJ practitioner who includes striking, clinching, and takedowns in his training will have more of a problem in a real fight than one who only practices groundfighting?


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The point is that I would more expect a striker with no grappling experience to have more problems than a grappler with no striking experience.

 

[Unkogami]

I don't quite follow. You think that a BJJ practitioner who includes striking, clinching, and takedowns in his training will have more of a problem in a real fight than one who only practices groundfighting?

Speaking as an amateur Sumo practitioner, I think Sumo can help develop certain skills and attributes which are useful in a fight. But that's not what it's for. Sumo practitioners are training to compete in the dohyo, not worrying about "hey, this wide stance leaves me open for a groin kick" or "I need to work more on my knife disarms."

Sumai

 

[Xeshawn]

Thanks Tony

Welcome to MartialTalk!

 

[Tony Dismukes]

The point is that I would more expect a striker with no grappling experience to have more problems than a grappler with no striking experience.

There's a legitimate argument to be made for that. However, it's less convincing if the grappler only does ground grappling and isn't adept at clinching and throwing.

 

[Dirty Dog]

The point is that I would more expect a striker with no grappling experience to have more problems than a grappler with no striking experience.

What is this expectation based upon?

 

[Unkogami]

What is this expectation based upon?

Experience.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Experience.

And you think that it's reasonable to extrapolate your own experience and apply that to the whole world?

 

[Unkogami]

And you think that it's reasonable to extrapolate your own experience and apply that to the whole world?

I didn't say just my personal experience.

 

[dunc]

Hello Guys my name is Xeshawn BJJ is My Passion , i am here to connect with your guys who have the same interest of BJJ like me.

Thanks

Hiya - welcome to the forum - many of us share your passion!

There's a legitimate argument to be made for that. However, it's less convincing if the grappler only does ground grappling and isn't adept at clinching and throwing.

Yeah, but I don't know anyone who does ground grappling without having at least a few good pragmatic takedowns