Why Silat?

Discussion in 'Indochinese Martial Arts - General' started by Hawke, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. infinite beginner

    infinite beginner Purple Belt

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    almost forgot my password for a moment or two,

    why do any martial arts at all ? well seems to answer

    that best with a question why not ? 1 reason anyone

    except the pain and injuries , what is martial art ?

    its not like a painting centuries old that is the same long

    after the artist, who painted it , in that sense does it exist

    if all the martial artists were taken to another planet by

    space warriors , but who would that leave if it even included

    the worst with the best does't every one have hundreds of

    hours of video exposure, movies ufc tv etc who isn't a backseat

    martial artist these days , some walk away from just one

    weekend seminar and change their name to chuckie chan seagal,

    or watch slow motion in slower motion episodes of the old kung fu

    series next day they are swinging a staff like the grass hopper was

    shown by master poe , are they now a new martial artist, the point is

    sure everyone is a painter too with a

    brush only their skylines look like

    blotches and trees like stick man

    octopuses, but who can't paint

    still who again would call themselves

    painting artist after a seminar or two

    Its an art almost without boundaries

    beyond concise definition , or a guy

    takes lessons for a few years as a teen

    is he a martial artist for life now, maybe

    there exist no martial arts with out

    the martial artist ,but what is the

    prerequisite for this wide spectrum

    a martial artist is someone who laughs

    in the face of full speed force at their face

    and plays with it like a piro with fire like

    a lion tamer calmly taunts the ferocious

    lions, fact is they make it look like anyone

    can not be instantly eaten if they tried it,

    how much

    class resistance is needed to foil their every technique

    a beginner tries, if everything is fully resisted

    nothing works right , but if it does somethings

    wrong , this technique has seven moves yeah

    ,boolsht , all have 1 the first move, theres is rarely

    ever a hundred percent resistance except when

    2 students might get into a fight mode mid technique,

    it happens , in any class though in the street its the norm

    so how real it is is gauged by levels

    of resistance in training style ,to learn

    another has to let you do the moves,

    once you learn, their role then is to not

    let you, so a martial art , separates itself

    at this phase , you could

    say it starts with countering the counter

    realizing their counter is inevitable no

    matter the move, the newer students

    say what do I do now, exactly this is where

    it gets tricky ,where the art of it really starts

    where it goes from checkers to chess, the expert

    plans on your countering the first ten

    or so things they do , automatically , though their

    intent is its done in two moves or less , but

    for them the strategies, are two sides of the same coin

    though only most everyone may share the second.

    just as every chess players goal is the capture of the king

    yet that is just the martial part , before the art.
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  2. infinite beginner

    infinite beginner Purple Belt

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    the art must come before the martial

    or its just kangaroo boxing and gorilla

  3. infinite beginner

    infinite beginner Purple Belt

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    Seems theres a big difference being a practitioner and a martial artist

    the latter requires an understanding of all martial arts , the sophistication

    doesn't exist in proficiency of executing clever technique , but more of

    more cleverly countering them , being expert at ones art alone does not

    make one a martial artist, this is the homework , really who cares if techniques

    are effective within the style , there's no bad martial arts just bad practitioners

    but most any martial arts class training will make one healthier stronger and more

    flexible , at worst they will definitely be able to run away faster and with better wind

    after practicing all those reps of fast flashy kicks , in class,

    even if that's all they do , but again , still the golden rule of all

    martial artists " never underestimate an opponent" , no matter

    what they've trained, martial arts styles are all connected

    at the show down , every style is surrounded by all other forms

    boxers strike like lightning , at any standing distance, so if A is a

    master grappler and B a seasoned boxer ,A has to get past the

    flying fists to even begin to do their thing , that is the prerequisite

    to get to their grappling territory, and if B has a friend quick with their

    boots any where near its not going to go so well for the ground

    expert , thats what they leave out in UFC , if the minute they went to

    the mat they got kicked it would be a brand new reality challenge ,

    BUT GETTING PAST a fast fist to the chin is the key that opens their door

    likewise the boxer is a stranger to the ground, so the most crucial

    practice for the grappler is getting past everything they do standing

    but do we ever see that , no they have one standing attack counter

    for every ten minutes of rolling around , oh they are hell to pay

    good at what they do , in their element , but their instinct is

    ingrained to the tackle reaction , but then its pretty safe

    to say you never want to box a boxer back , what if they

    are a savate expert , is the boxer going to start with a kick

    it would be an unretractable mistake . but the boxer has

    the advantage over both , at the point it goes from words

    to action , cause where two face off its from in his prime range

    blah blah , blah , hands rise Pow ! how it happens ,

    so ones silat savate grappling and silat boxing and silat karate

    and kun tao counters, must be, at the top of the training awareness .

    but what do you style s do pitched with a style that 's focused solely on that

    tedious ground sweeping, , silat would seem the closest thing

    if one did that thousands of times a day they'd be one tough mf

    for one just free falling flat to the ground beats the sht outta ya

    then there's all the endless spinning , and jumping up fast seems

    people would remember to forget to go back to a class that

    did only that , before they can be kicked punched or grabbed

    they are already falling and they only want the leg on the way

    and let that ground they thought their best friend , become

    their worst enemy speeding up behind them , as bad as it

    feels flopping half flat to the ground ,its way worse thousand times

    to be ground swept theres just no easy way to fly up and land

    a quater second later flat on your back, even if you go slower

    gravity is gravity , well this is one martial art that would

    have the falls catch up from all that shock and self inflicted impact

    thats why all martial arts seem to have it , but not only it

    again silat is ground kinda art , so it shows up quite allot .

    So there's that to despair over , as well , so an art is only

    as strong as its holdup to comparison, to see ones art in

    all martial arts is too have a very deep rooted art , then its

    not really your art now it you owe so much of its understandings

    and practical applications to all the myriad of counterings for

    other arts out there .

    All martial artists on a high level , are sharing in the same art

    they all drop their students instantaneously some a bit faster
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