Kevin, the hard part is nailing them and having it stick. We've both seen, just this year, someone claiming a 9th Dan in Hapkido and lineage to a certain individual...but no matter how many times details were asked for, none were forthcoming. Oddly enough this same person had no qualms about asking others for detailed information about themselves. As for others we all know about that were basically caught red-handed...how did it really affect them? I still see some of these individuals from time to time plying their wares in the martial art world. And of course the big problem is schools like the TKD school I brought up earlier this year that was bringing in a Korean Hapkido GM that would test you for, and grant Hapkido rank after just ONE weekend of training! To clarify (I still have the flyer), you did not have to have any previous experience in Hapkido. You only needed a BB in Hapkido and attend the weekend seminar (and of course pay a hefty seminar AND testing fee AND the check needed to clear). And to top it off, the Dan rank didn't necessarily start at the first Dan. If you were say a 5th Dan in TKD they might advance your one-weekend Hapkido Dan to perhaps 3rd or 4th. I reported on this and of course some of the usual suspects actually came out and tried to defend this as a valid way to earn a Hapkido BB! I think the party line was that it was none of our business what a Korean Hapkido GM did at a Korean TKD GM's school. We shouldn't questions such things. Point is that you can point out these things all day long. Just be prepared to see a few rush to the defense of these types of practices.