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  1. drop bear

    drop bear Sr. Grandmaster

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    He would get away with that more if he moved his head off line.

    I did a video of a mate of mine who uses that very bombie style. But there are fundamental needed to make it work.
     
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    A wrestler may think differently than a striker does.

    If you can get your opponent's hand/arm, you will get the rest of his body. You have to knock on your opponent's door before you can enter.

    This is why you will need to "chase your opponent's hand first". If you can get your opponent's wrist, pull his arm into you, you will know exactly where his head is.
     
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  3. Tony Dismukes

    Tony Dismukes MT Moderator Staff Member

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    Good footwork helps as well. Dominic Cruz frequently uses those wide looping punches, but he does it while cutting angles and moving offline.
     
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  4. JowGaWolf

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    Will a sparring video against an amateur boxer work?

    As for why I don't have other students who can do it. The answer is that their training was cut short when I was kicked out of the school because I focused too much on fighting." There were 2 students who were many 2 or 3 months away from being able to use the technique.
     
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    They would try. I don't doubt that. Depending on how aggressive they were I would just speed up the punches.

    I can throw these punches much faster
     
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    Yeah they do, but not all of them. A few came from Sanda backgrounds. They didn't chase. But I also didn't use any of the big punches on them until much later, when I was training to compete.
     
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    I understand your point, but how do you avoid running out of practice partners or newbies to work with, if you strike with full force and gleefully hit every opponent who fails to block properly?

    Or maybe TKD is the only art that uses control in all movements?

    I took TKD many years ago and control was very important and we worked on it constantly. Of course blocking was important as well, but if the block missed or was ineffective for some reason, the control of the attacker would prevent injury to any part of the body but the ego.

    And there would be more work on the block and the objective was always not to be hit with a strike or kick.

    Or maybe I am not understanding what you are trying to say?
     
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    No I don't think you do for wrestling as getting his hands away from his body is why you are chasing hands in the first place.
     
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    You do some heavy rounds and light ones.

    When I do serious rounds with my coach I will quite often break up that round with other guys. So I only get bashed for a minute.
     
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    Sounds like a better plan.
     
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    Which might be the issue that they might be flinchy.

    Again my issue with my coach is if he turns it up I could get seriously injured.

    And so am more tentative to take it too him than other guys.
     
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    I have some shark tank of myself getting flogged. I will post it after my coach fights.
     
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  14. JowGaWolf

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    Not sure how much of a clue one would need if the punches were traveling at this speed. At this point the questions becomes. Do you want train your technique or do you want to prove you can hit someone with this force and this speed?


    If you and I were to spar, would you prefer a friendly session where we both can learn and work on techniques or would you want me to just start at this level first? Then after we both lick our wounds, ask. "what did we really get out of it?"
     
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    Not every one that I spar with is flinchy, including this guy. There have be times where he took to to me, by catching me off my game or focus. He wasn't hitting with pillows, so it wasn't like I could just be lazy with him every time we sparred. He gave me a black eye once because I lost focused and got lazy.
     
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    This is why I love 1 minute bunkai.
    They always stress authenticity of the attack. Proper penetration and not throwing short or off line in the strike.

     
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    Who said anything about full force? I can see you've never trained at an MMA gym, where we make contact every day and still manage to not get injured at any sort of above average rate.

    That's something I hear a lot from guys that don't train contact actually. There seems to be a belief in those circles that's pretty common that the human body is made of glass and will simply shatter of first contact. That's really not the case.

    The worst part of getting hit is psychological, which can only be overcome by getting hit. People that aren't used to that 9/10 times simply panic when it happens, rendering all other training useless as technique flys out the window.
     
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    Like I said to the last guy, not sure how you got to going full force from what I said, which wasn't that.

    Also the speed here is fine, especially since you telegraph everything. This is the sort of issue you could fix with a better quality partner.
     
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    I'd have to see you spar someone that doesn't suck to really grep this.123
     

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