Ninutsu Frank Dux!!!

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  1. Kunochi

    Kunochi White Belt

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    Please forgive me for making my very first post so long. In reviewing the past threads on Frank Dux and Bloodsport I became very disenchanted, as I thought what a "Ninutsu Frank Dux" but then I met Frank Dux, at a seminar. After questioning him about te controversy he politely referred me to some truly credible sources where it became very apparent to me the members whose wisdom I had deferred to are either ill informed or like me, are being mislead.

    Frank Dux bona fides became verifiable when he attempted to have his day in court and confront his accusers and the false allegations against him; those same allegations and sources being referred to and repeated in the threads, I had reviewed prior to my meeting him.

    In cases of libel and slander, it is incumbent upon the plaintiff, Frank Dux, to prove first and foremost to the court that the allegations made against him were entirely false - which included his proving he is a Kumite champion (as documented by Black belt magazine, Nov. 1980; in fight footage he presented to LA Times editorial staff but the editor and reporter John Johnson refused to view the videos as this killed Johnson's slant on the story; Ed Parker, the founder of American Karate, amongst other Martial Art authorities vouched for the existence of the Kumite and Dux winning it to John Johnson of LA Times whom, it turns out responded by concealing these facts from the reader. Instead, the reporter purposefully juxtaposed statements within his article to render an entirely new meaning. His tone in his article is so venomous he resorts to subliminal and manipulative writing devices of leading the reader and engages in hateful name calling, absent any semblance of journalistic objectivity.

    Included in the Dux v SOF case exhibits (available through PACER) were Dux authentic Department of Defense Duty Discharge (DD 214) papers that establish Frank Dux is trained and served in defense of his country, as an intelligence specialist. This is contrary to what was reported by SOF and John Johnson, who claims to have reviewed the same military documents, under FOIA. The majority of actual verifiable facts regarding Frank Dux appeared with his having sued Soldier of Fortune magazine for libel and slander, who promoted the controversy.

    FYI - Robert K. Brown who owns SOF had also created at this time another controversy by having portrayed the founder of SEAL Team Six, the secret US anti-terror unit, Dick Marchinko, a fraud, as well. The evidence Dux attorney, Steven Kramer, presented, revealed that Brown used his magazine and the appearance of journalistic objectivity to financial benefit himself as he was competing with Dux and Marchinko to get his SOF TV series project green-lighted with Jerry Brucheimer, over their competing film projects. All the while hiding behind Times v. Sullivan the case law that allows tabloid journalism to exist, as it allows unethical journalists, like John Johnson I believe to be to make false and misleading statements without fear of being sued.

    In the Dux v Van Damme case, Dux finally had the opportunity to expose the so called smoking gun evidence and allegations being leveled against Dux by LA Times Reporter John Johnson, with Johnson representing that Dux had bought his trophy. The receipt was removed by the court as evidence when it became revealed on its face to be fabricated by the reporter, John Johnson, and that the only sources of John Johnson and SOF and other detractors all stem from Frank Dux business competitors or disgruntled ex-students expelled from his system, like David Richardson, believed by many of Dux students I conferred with to be hiding behind the name, B.C. Busman. Responsible for originating and manufacturing many of the misleading and libelous statements regarding Dux.
     
  2. Logan

    Logan Green Belt

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    Geez.... let it die already.... I don't think many people care anymore....I couldn't even finish reading that bollix....
     
  3. kcs

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    i agree and the same for ashida kim. i am tired of hearing about these two. mod please delete this thread.
     
  4. kaizasosei

    kaizasosei Master Black Belt

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    if you're so happy doing what you do, then why bother bashing or picking away at others? that goes for people of all arts.

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  5. kcs

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    i see threads all the time people bashing the hatsumi and the bujinkan. so it is ok for them to do it?? we can defend ourself. i am not bashing anyone i am agreeing this thread needs to die.
     
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    You paint an old mansion using mustard, and then you put out a newspaper ad that says "Mansion for sale". And then this guy comes along to look at it, and you tell him "go ahead, taste the mustard", but what he doesn't know is that you've mixed it with some extremely powerful sedatives. So he falls asleep, and then you load him up in a trunk which you load onto an airplane bound for Grand Canyon, and then you bury the trunk at the bottom of Grand Canyon, and then when you come back his relatives are like "where is he, where is he!?!?"

    And you're like, "well, you're gonna have to look for him, I can tell you that much."
     
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    Please, return to the original topic.

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  8. blood shadow

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    ah poor koga ninja the first mistake he made was thinking he was a koga ninja.the second was that he is ninja.
     
  9. Doc_Jude

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    I think you have those backwards.

    I thought that Dux lost that case with Van Damme over rights to "Bloodsport" and "The Quest" since he totally failed to produce any proof of his Kumite performance, in addition to his hoaxter behavior being revealed. Wasn't that what happened? I thought he got a little money over the script, as far as being the concept originator but wasn't able to prove that it was autobiographical.
     
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    Its Tibetan in origin so there is a 5000 year history of peace driving it onward today
     
  11. benkyoka

    benkyoka Yellow Belt

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    Why don't you just post your knowledge here for the benefit of everyone?
     
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    JadecloudAlchemist Master of Arts

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    Here is one of the links concerning the Hard copy tv report of that



    I too would like to read about this.
     
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    Kunochi White Belt

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    There are always two sides to every story. I came across Frank Dux myspace page:

    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=346595645

    I also came across an impartial objective article he refers to in his About Me section, entitled Frank Dux aka The Secret Man written by award winning investigative journalist, John Stevens, International News Service, in 2008.

    John Stevens accuracy and completeness in reporting makes for a good example of the difference to be found between legitimate skilled journalists searching for the truth and people hiding behind pseudonyms trying to pass themselves off as objective investigative reporters, like M.C. Busman on *********.com, that owe Mr. Dux an apology.

    I think M.C. Busman didn't really do his homework or is intentionally spinning the facts to serve his own hidden agenda, but then again, Stevens is an award winning real investigative reporter, well known to Oregonians.

    Please, take notice of the plethora of sources the International News Service reporter uses and how those sources being referred to regarding Dux on other sites also mysteriously go without mention that they were sued for libel and slander and shown to be serving their own agenda by which to financially gain by way of maligning Dux - YELLOW JOURNALISM ala Randolph Hearst, Enquirer stuff.


     
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    Interesting, googling "john stevens" + "international news service" reveals nothing relevant, other than a link to Dux' Myspace page... I would think a well known journalist would have at least a few more articles online somewhere... :rolleyes:
    Now since you're obviously an associate of Dux', who really has an agenda, especially considering your only two posts here are rants against his critics... :idunno:
    Oh, and as for Dux winning his court case against Van Damme, strangely this video from Hard Copy says that Dux lost, and in fact his testimony was considered "less than credible."
    Maybe MC Busman isn't the one who needs to do his homework.
     
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    lol
     
  16. newtothe dark

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    Some of these never end him and Kim just wont go away sad.
     
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    Very nice finds Kreth! [​IMG]
     
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    ......................BWAHAAHAHAHAAHAHA!!!!!!
     
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    Well after doing some investigations of my own it seems that the International News Service ceased to exist after merging in 1958 with United Press Association to become the United Press International ( www.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_News_Service ). So obviously anything associated with Frank Dux should be taken with a grain of salt. As far as I can see in reference to Dux there has been alot of evidence presented showing this man to be a:
    1. Fake Ninja
    2. Fake Military decorations
    3. Fake CIA
    4. Fake Kumite story
    I especially take offense to number 2 on the list being that I was in the Marine Corps myself and have high respect for any member of the U.S. Military especially now with the War on Terror. With that said any award or medals awarded to those warriors are most definitely earned. So for this guy to just come in and wear medals not earned is definitely a disgrace.
     
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    No 4. WHere the **** is this kumite right now !!!!


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