Not only that, since BillC dropped off the radar, a few crazies seemed to have appeared. Hope that is not down to me!
I don't think you ever saw the worst of BillC, I left after he said that in the UK and Europe we kill premature babies deliberately. Having lost a premature baby it was more than I could stomach along with the extremist views, sheer misinformation and being told to shut up lol. Came back when it changed and he was gone. That was the one and only time I got angry on here, the rest of the time I don't.
Yeah, I was enlightened on how much of a wotsit he could be. In one thread he posted, I jumped on it because I took the bait.
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Gotta cut him some slack hes just a kid
A couple things...
The rules here are the same for all. There is no slack cut because of age.
This thread is about military strategy. Perhaps if people want to discuss something other than military strategy, another thread or private conversation would be more appropriate.
The rules here are the same for all. There is no slack cut because of age.
This thread is about military strategy. Perhaps if people want to discuss something other than military strategy, another thread or private conversation would be more appropriate.
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LOL ok
Throughout my younger years reading and viewing footage on WW2, one thing has always stood out. That would be Stalingrad (Volgograd). The 6th Army under Paulus and the 4th under Hoth (4th Panzers). One scenario that I have thought about for years is this. Despite the major thrust towards Stalingrad by the 6th, I wonder what would have happened if Hitler, or otherwise persuaded, had not decided to retask the 4th Panzers. Had he not done so, they would not have got caught up with the 1st Panzer (traffic jam) after being re-tasked. The resultant interference by Hitler meant that there was delay on the advance to Stalingrad to back up Paulas. History pretty much recognised that this was a week. A week in which the Red army were able to reinforce Stalingrad to a defensive level.
Now what if. Hitler decides not to put everything on the 6th and still sends the 4th. The scenario is that with both elements and without the week delay, the Wehrmacht could have simply walked in. The last pocket of resistance preventing the capture of the city, would not have existed. The tractor factories would have been taken, and other supplies etc. the city itself could have been reinforced with AT guns, 88’s and Stug/Panzer III’s. What do you peeps think, Possible.
Now what if. Hitler decides not to put everything on the 6th and still sends the 4th. The scenario is that with both elements and without the week delay, the Wehrmacht could have simply walked in. The last pocket of resistance preventing the capture of the city, would not have existed. The tractor factories would have been taken, and other supplies etc. the city itself could have been reinforced with AT guns, 88’s and Stug/Panzer III’s. What do you peeps think, Possible.
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Why can you do that's special like toms symbol?
Actually I missed out a word "I do not like Brit bashing" What are you getting at above?
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That comment right there was what did it for me. Maybe it wasn't intended, but when I read that aloud it sounded incredibly disrespectful.
That's coming from a "standard thing" (three years active duty service in the US Army). Those common foot men and gate guards deserve respect as well...
But I am certain what you said wasn't meant to sound disrespectful so no harm done.
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True, standard training in any branch is nothing to sneer at where I come from. Not all get to wear the Approved Infantryman/Engineer/whatever badge either since the tests can be quite demanding
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Here, the SAS is made up mostly of infantrymen who have passed selection. There's a few Paras in there too but mostly infantrymen.
'Gate Guards' tend to be soldiers on guard duty, most soldiers even Paras do this. Being on the 'gate' is one of the most important jobs on a camp, first line of defence especially in Afghan etc.
'Gate Guards' tend to be soldiers on guard duty, most soldiers even Paras do this. Being on the 'gate' is one of the most important jobs on a camp, first line of defence especially in Afghan etc.
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Cnida: then if you understood what I meant, and not meaning to be degrading in any matter, why would you bother to bring it up?
Yes, they do work too. There's nothing wrong or lowly in what they do.
And compared to certain spec ops men they are common people. Child's play in training as we'll. I'm talking in comparison of coarse.
Yes, they do work too. There's nothing wrong or lowly in what they do.
And compared to certain spec ops men they are common people. Child's play in training as we'll. I'm talking in comparison of coarse.
And where do you think the 'spec ops' people come from, oh that's right the 'poor bloody infantry.' You aren't born 'spec ops, you join up and you do your basic training, you get some time in then you volunteer, then you are trained some more. Many infantry roles are specialised now, there is no plain foot soldier anymore, everyone is as highly trained in their role as a 'spec op' is. Do you know what 'forward support' is? do you know what recon teams do? Snipers? there's plenty more roles in the army that are as 'special' as the 'spec ops'. They may seem glamorous, they may seem 'harder' but you shouldn't believe everything you read or see in films.
Infantry training in our army takes months, it continues on in the Battalions, it's hardly 'child's play', could you do it? I wonder.
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Umm no not even close. As a Marine I trained with damn near all the "special" units at one point or another. The training is the same they just do more of it and have better toys
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Gotta love the toys they got
especially look at the roles the infantry do after basic training. I imagine that the US army is much the same
https://www.army.mod.uk/rolefinder/role/83/infantry-soldier
https://www.army.mod.uk/rolefinder/role/83/infantry-soldier
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its a crutch
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Is a enhancer. They were never handicapped.
