Michael Bisping oh why you shouldn’t use BJJ in a street fight

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  1. jobo

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    clearly there are not infinite outcomes
     
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    Sort of. It isn't standing that saves you. People think it is and people get punched in the back of the head a lot for it.

    It is running that saves you.

    But kneeling on someone's chest is more likey to result in striking that stops them because gravity is a super power. And that is then one less multiple oponant.

    If you are super slick at gang fights you can stand and cover the guy on the ground while your mate GnP,s him. And you can finish them faster than they finish you hand have two on one fights in your favor.

    Even three or four seconds of that is a pretty a pretty big impact.

    So you may take a risk to reduce a risk.
     
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    Ok. I fall to the ground in the real world. What happens?

    Feel free to stop when your typing finger gets tired.
     
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    well you either get up or you stop there, general,

    but large number do not equal infinity, infinity isnt a number its a concept that comes into play when there are no more numbers left, nb there are always some numbers left, just stick another few zeros on, with the possible exception of the size of the universe, and even that is largely because we cant measure it rather than it cant be measured if we could see far enough
     
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    if there is trick to multiple opponents its you position yourself fight them one at a time, fighting one whilst another is in a position to hit you seldom ends well
     
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    Well and concisely put.
     
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    So, what is the number that delineates the limit to the possible outcomes from his statement?
     
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    All good concepts. And all mostly irrelevant in the moment that you are on your back and they have mount. That’s where BJJ has better answers than I’ve seen elsewhere, by a pretty good margin.
     
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    two
     
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    we have already had this exact conversation, if your on your back and there are multiple opponents, you've lost,

    this to has only two possible outcomes either they kick you to death or they dont
     
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    Yes but half of infinity equals infinity. And as anything can happen from the probable to outrageously improbable. From standing up to a plane landing on your head.

    Infinite is accurate here.
     
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    but infinity isnt a number you cant times it by a number and get a number as the answers, its like if times love by two, the answer is still love, its the question that is failing to know what either infinity or love are

    but the answer to your questions isnt infinity or in fact any number equal or greater than 3
     
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    Ok as they kick you they trip over and knock themselves out.

    So that is now 3 outcomes.
     
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    you've clearly never done logic trees

    that still only two out comes, that falls under didnt kick you to death, if you want to add an or gate you need to find something not covered the other two existing or gates, and as its binary i dont think thats likely, but go on, surprise me
     
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    Outcomes in this context are the endpoints, not the immediate branches.
     
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    being dead is an end point, being alive is as well, there arnt any intermediate branches
     
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    Do you know what trolling is? It's when you post something inflammatory for the sole purpose of starting some ****.

    You are literally admitting to trolling.
     
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    well, technically, you can't sweep from under mount. But yeah, the idea is to improve your position so that you have options. From under mount, priority one is to fix that. Then you can think about sweeping or standing up.
     
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    Hip bump. Like day one bjj self defense.
     
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    Nice binary view. Unfortunately it excludes all the variations that don’t result in immediate death.123
     

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