who actually thinks you can punch someone on top of you.

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I realize you are just being facetious. But realize, you are addressing a man who puts on a uniform and risks his life every single day. That alone should be worth your respect.


and you think you are the only one who wears a uniform and risks their lives? Respect is earnt you can't demand it just because you say you wear a uniform and risk your life, crossing some roads risks lives, what makes you so brave then?
 
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While in a life and death situation , I can see risking the exchange of blood with a bite. Yet it would not be my go to move.
The grab and pull tight and attack other parts of them including the head is ok.
Jabbing up with a spear like motion and or fist can get a shot in. Also if one does with w shrimp motion one can get some range and reaction.
One can also hammer fist which is a gross motor skill and the body mechanics allow for that motion easily.

The issue you face is that space works to the advantage of the guy on top. If I am under a guy and getting blasted I want to pull him on me not push him off. And upward striking creates space.

So if you are going to fire off these strikes the space has to work to your advantage and not just firing off in the hope the guy on top will roll off or fall unconscious.
 
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What is this said uniform?
A Clown Uniform?
A Military Uniform?
A LEO Uniform?
A Health Specialist Uniform?
A Business Uniform?
A Would you like Fries with that Uniform?

Curious minds are interested ;)

My hat is off to some of those who work fast food in dodgy areas. They have a tough job.
 

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Getting back to the original question, you don't have to punch.

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DUDE!

BACK UP!

You insult people and me and want me to give you respect. WOW !?!

You have not asked about me, or my experience or maybe you know about it, because you have been here before?

Give a little respect to those who ask questions and comment and maybe they will reply in kind. You may not have known I have done security work. I have been on the scene of accidents before the official first responders. I have had my rear end handed to me by gangs and survived being shot at (multiple times - as well as being held at gun point), stabbed, cut, hit by a car, hit by a truck, hit by a suburban, going through plate glass windows, tazers, golf clubs, baseball bats, tire irons, ... , keep the list going and people have probably used it against me. I have used improvised weapons as well.

So take a step back, yourself and provide a little insight as to why you make your comments versus making strange comments and trying to sound bad *** and dangerous. Just present that data and let others recognize or comment on your condition or survival.
How have I insulted people???

All I've done is relate on the job experiences and asked people not disparge the uniform. How is that insulting???
 

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How have I insulted people???

All I've done is relate on the job experiences and asked people not disparge the uniform. How is that insulting???

My hat is off to some of those who work fast food in dodgy areas. They have a tough job.


I don't know if you have them but here a lot of takeaway places deliver, the drivers often on mopeds are attacked regularly for the money. It's a scary job for not much money.
 

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yeah once you're on the receiving end of ground'n'pound your pretty much f***ed. There may be ways to wrestle your way out of one but I'm no BJJ expert

Even with Bjj, once someone is on top of you, you're in a lot of trouble. The mount is probably the most dominant position in MA, and it requires little skill to ground and pound from that position. The Gracies won many challenge matches by achieving the mount, and simply punching guys in the face. Heck, I see kids doing it to each other in those amateur fight videos, probably by watching MMA matches on youtube.

If you're a professional fighter used to someone being on top of you and hitting you in the face, you probably have the mental fortitude to weather the blows and trade punches like that guy in the video earlier in the thread. However, the simple reality is that the vast majority of people don't have that mental fortitude, and freak out once the fists and elbows start raining down. That mental breakdown gives the guy on top a massive advantage.
 

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In an exchange of strikes I would hate to be the guy on the bottom. Could I possibly hit someone from the bottom, sure. Is it the optimal thing to attempt, absolutely not! What is better is to expend my energy creating a situation where I can bump and roll the top
person and or create enough space to re-guard them. I have personally witnessed some crazy things done that no one would ever advise so understand that there really are "no absolutes" and yet there are always better options.
 

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Grappling with a polar bear is just not a good idea. Maybe the eye gouge is the best defense. I somehow don't think the polar bear will be too quick to turn for the armbar. :)


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God, I love this place. I just do.
 

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The issue you face is that space works to the advantage of the guy on top. If I am under a guy and getting blasted I want to pull him on me not push him off. And upward striking creates space.

So if you are going to fire off these strikes the space has to work to your advantage and not just firing off in the hope the guy on top will roll off or fall unconscious.


True. Yet I have struck a throat to create space and while they were going up they also posted their arm on me. This allowed for me to hip out with a wrist lock throw and roll them over and then I could work them over from their guard.

As with anything in life it all depends upon what happens on that moment between those involved.
 

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It's a security officer's uniform. And it's one I've been proud to where for nearly a decade now. Too many good men and woman have given their lives wearing it, so I suggest you use a little reverence instead of denigration.

How have I insulted people???

All I've done is relate on the job experiences and asked people not disparge the uniform. How is that insulting???

You make comments about fights and about knife attacks and you tell people to respect you and you do not respect others.
There was no reference to a uniform even a security guard one before that point. And since you were being disrespectful in your comments before that I replied in kind.

So yes you have insulted our members here, and to those who have seen conflict with your casual lack of respect in your responses.

So reflect upon your negativity and realize what you provide to others you get back as well.
 

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Grappling with a polar bear is just not a good idea. Maybe the eye gouge is the best defense. I somehow don't think the polar bear will be too quick to turn for the armbar. :)


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It is not advisable to try even bjj on a polar bear, there is a chance that going to ground in this instance may not work. Not everyone on this website is trained to Master Ken's level.
 

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