What forms do you know?

[Shifu Steve]

Kata == Japanese btw, not Chinese but I know what you're talking about.

I'm still waiting though on my last question to you about the Song dynasty Praying Mantis you mentioned. How about some info on it?

Thanks for making the inference about the kata.

I saw your question but can't offer you a detailed history of the Mantis I learned as I don't really know. I recently asked my Shifu (Sifu)about it and all he told me was that it was a Shaolin take on Seven Star brought to the U.S. by Grand Master Pai. One of the guys I trained with under him now trains with his teacher (Dennis Hardy) who may know a very detailed history of the style. Personally I'd like to know more about it so the next time I have the opportunity to speak with him I'm going to ask about this.

 

[mograph]

For what it's worth, I look at the principles as the "lessons", with the form as the "lab" where the lessons are practiced and expanded upon.

Also, once you have a solid grounding in the principles of an, it's easier to learn new forms in that art, because you see the principles within the forms again and again.

Just a thought ...

 

[Tamojin]

Honestly its seems like with the amount of forms some of these guys know I think they thought the question was "How many forms have you heard of! " lol

 

[clfsean]

Don't hate... keeps the basics from being boring.

 

[Punchy]

For what it's worth, I look at the principles as the "lessons", with the form as the "lab" where the lessons are practiced and expanded upon.

Also, once you have a solid grounding in the principles of an, it's easier to learn new forms in that art, because you see the principles within the forms again and again.

Just a thought ...

Reminds me of a quote..."the forms are not the system, the system is in the forms"

 

[mograph]

... once you have a solid grounding in the principles of an, it's easier to learn new forms in that art ...

Sorry, that should be "principles of an art".

Or maybe it's a secret style called "an" .... very mysterious ...

 

[ShortBridge]

Normally means "Sink" or "Sinking"... i.e the Chum Kiu (sinking bridge) technique... fairly common in southern CMA.

This is an interesting anomaly, I think. If you read in the Complete Wing Chun book by Rene Richie and Robert Chu, they interview various branches of Wing Chun and some of them say it means "seeking" and some say that it means "sinking" and both come with explanations that seem plausible.

I'm not a Cantonese speaker, but have asked some who have trained with us and they all say "it depends on the Character". Which leads me to one or two conclusions.

1) It might deliberately be a homonym.
2) Evidence that Wing Chun was passed down Aurally, not in writing. Us westerns want things to be written down (in our native language) and I question how much of what gets recorded that was is inaccurate or at least missing some neuance.

 

[TransformationWell]

Oiy this could take a minute.

Also, let me preface that these are forms I've learned through the years. Some have gone the way of the dodo in my head, others are practiced almost daily. All were taught by a person qualified to teach them. I'm not a forms collector by any stretch of the word, but in meeting people with & thru my sifu & his kung fu brothers, if something was offered, it was accepted gratefully.

Choy Li Fut:
Cerng Lo Fu Jow Kuen
Siu Lin Wan Kuen
Siu Ping Kuen
Siu Moi Fa Kuen
Siu Pao Kuen
Siu Jin Kuen
Siu Sup Ji Kuen
Siu Hung Kuen
Ng Lun Ma
Ng Lun Choi
Che Kuen
Cheong Kuen
Sup Ji Kau Dah Kuen
Ng Ying Kuen
Law Horn Fook Fu Kuen
Law Horn Sup Bat Sao Hei Gung
Soi Poon Gun
Bing Gwai Gun
Siu Moi Fah Gun
Hung Sing Moi Fa Dao
Hung Sing Cheung
Hung Sing Cerng Bei Sao
Hung Sing Dip Dao
Sup Ji Cerng Bei Sao
Hung Sao Yup Seung Bei Sao

Lung Ying Jing Jung:
Sup Luk Dong

Songshan Bei Shaolin:
Lohan Quan

Taiji Quan:
Cheng Man Ching 37 Step
Chen 18 Step
PRC 24 Step
Ba Duan Jing

Xingyi Quan:
5 Roads
12 Animals

Wah Lum/Praying Mantis:
San Sup Lok Sao
Law Horn Kuen
Fut Jeurng
Bak Yuan Tao To
Lan Jeet
Siu Fan Che
Yin Chin Kuen
Sup Lok Gun
Lok Hop Gun
Wah Lum Dao
Wah Lum Joi Dao
Wah Lum Dip Do
Ching Ping Gim
Cerng Sao Gim
Dai So Gee
Fu Mei Sam Jeet Gun

CLFSean, did you by any chance study with the late Master Nelson Chan for CLF? Regards, TSW

 

[Tony Dismukes]

CLFSean, did you by any chance study with the late Master Nelson Chan for CLF? Regards, TSW

I don't think Sean has checked in on the forum for a couple of years. You might try sending him a direct message. Sometimes that gives the member an email alert that someone is trying to reach them.