Don't you suppose that a solid boxing or football coach could and did play the game competently in their time? Indeed, I would bet large money that any successful coach once participated competently in the sport he teaches. Also, martial arts aren't sport as I see them so we're not making a direct comparison perhaps. I don't see how competent instruction is possible without a working knowledge of the subject matter to be taught.I have never stated that the instructor in question need be a worldbeater, he simply needs to be able to perform competently. I stand by my statement. We must agree to disagree on this it seems.Adept said:I disagree entirely. Think about it in terms of a boxing coach, or a football coach. he doesn't need to be able to do it himself, or have ever done it well himself (although I concede it certainly helps) so long as he gives quality instruction. The only measure should be the quality of his instruction, not how well he fights or fought.