Master Black Belt
- Apr 12, 2007
- Reaction score
- Calgary, AB, Canada
This brings up the old (and essentially unaswerable) question about how "sharp" edges really were on the longswords. Were, as thrusting weapons, less sharp? Were they basically unsharpened? Were they only sharp at the Feeble and not at the Forte? Assuming they were "less sharp" was there a reason for this (i.e., was the edge geometry designed to be able to deliver cuts to tough and/or armoured individuals and be able to maintain the edge as opposed to a more delicate yet sharper "razor" edge)?(3, As halfswording is most usually done with thrust-oriented blades, it IS safer to grab than a dedicated cutter as the edge angle is a bit greater as a result of the thicker blade. That's of course not true for deeply hollow-ground blades.)
Bearing in mind that I don't really have a dog in this fight (e.g., it's all the same to me - I don't personally study any of the medieval or renaisance arts, preferring instead 18th-19th Century arts)...Why, we have some well preserved ones in museums and some has the chance to examine them closely.
Sure. But when you get to Cut-and-Thrust swords (like Rapiers) a lot of those rules go out the window.I'm partially speaking banalities here, as anyone involved in European swords knows that thrusters have a greater distal taper which by its very nature gives a less acute edge even if the diamond cross-section is maintained. But even if the strong is unsharpened the weak must be at least a bit sharp at a length of average penetration depth to improve the thrusting ability.
I suspect that you are right. It's as good a conclusion as any anyhow.After all, I believe this was a choice of the buyer and the maker.
Not to mention the very heavy clothing typical of the time and location.About the daggers... quite much of the better preserved ones have such a thick blade that it would never allow for sharp edges. While these are much less effective against unarmoured opponents, they are suitable for penetrating mail, thus they give the ability to fight armoured opponents as well.
On the topic of Sikh martial arts, are you aware that I have republished an antique Gatka manual? PDF download is free.My teacher took part in showing Mike how the Chakar (a razor edged throwing quoit) was used by the Sikhs, thrown on foot into the vanguards, from horses and from elephants.
Like I said, I don't have a dog in this fight.I was again a bit stupid, leaving out something I think would be important.
Parade pieces are made by competent smiths for competent fighters, and they would be seen by competent guys. While parade swords are oversized to the point of being nearly useless, a fighter proud of his abilities would vomit at a simple decorated iron bar posing as a sword, and it would cause strange looks from those who understand things. I haven't yet seen a blunt parade sword for example, and leaving the blade blunt is for sure making things MUCH easier on the smith.
Think about swordplay in Shakespeare's theatre, it was choreographed well enough to convince the viewer that the hero knows swordsmanship enough to BE the hero he portrays.