Steven Lopez got KO'd in Mexico!!!
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I'm not familiar with this type of sparring. What's the point of all the hugging?
d1jinx
Master Black Belt
Yeah, I dont like that either. kind of silly and embarrassing. When I center Ref, I dont let them hug that long. I thought they were slow dancing for a minute there.
Some people try to counter off the "clinch" so the ref's usually give them a few seconds to see if any play will develope. Almost never does.
This fight is not a good example of what olympic TKD is supposed to be. But this is what it has evolved into. When played right, I t can be a very interesting and good match. The WTF is constantly evolving its rules to get away from the way it has become. I have said a million times that i am not that impressed with many matches of Lopez. But I have seen other less "famous" fighters with some really outstanding matches....
I thought at first they were doing a friendly break, then it looked like they were trying some rather odd close shots, then it looked like a boxing clinch but the ref didn't seem hurried in breaking it up. Hence my confusion. I'm more familiar with FMA stick fighting though and point karate.
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ATC
Senior Master
The thing is that many of us here that are quite familuar with this sport can see that this was intentional. But I guess us that do and know what we are looking at just talk to be talking, even though we do and teach this everyday.:shrug:
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ATC
Senior Master
Not sure why you are trying ot equate the two. Most of these competitors do both the art and the sport. Can't for the life of me understand why it is so hard for some to understand this.
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ATC
Senior Master
And you know this how?
Earl Weiss
Senior Master
granfire
Sr. Grandmaster
And we are still compairing Filet Mignon and Hashbrowns.
I think, if we focus on the 2 guys who met on a level playing field that is not the street, we get a lot further.
(besides, I just love the 'it get's you killed in the streets' argument. A lot of things get you killed in the streets, but number one cause of this is being in a bad place...neither guns nor MA training replaces common sense)
I think, if we focus on the 2 guys who met on a level playing field that is not the street, we get a lot further.
(besides, I just love the 'it get's you killed in the streets' argument. A lot of things get you killed in the streets, but number one cause of this is being in a bad place...neither guns nor MA training replaces common sense)
People who do Sport TKD understand that 90% of what they do is NOT applicable in the mythical "Street" or "Street Fight" that everyone is always referring to. ATC, Terry and many more have stated that Olympic Sport TKD Athletes understand that what they do is a sport and should not be compared to self defense. The only thing that hurts the art is the constant complaining by people who have ax to grind with the sport side of TKD. Everyone I know who practices the Sport of TKD also loves the art side and the self defense side. We love traditional TKD. We also happen to love the sport! Why people refuse to see open there minds and see both sides is beyond me.
Twin Fist
Grandmaster
Twin Fist
Grandmaster
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wrong answer
what hurts the ART is people seeing the SPORT and thinking it is the ART
Manny
Senior Master
I have to agree with you in all the above that is not MA that is a GAME a full contact GAME. The match beetwen Steven and Aaron was that a GAME that Aaron capitalize, he won by a well knock out, it was fate? don't know, but Aaron is a complete Atlethe and a champion and he is well prepared for winning matches even by ko.
I don't like at all the GAME of TKD but it's waht it is? However I've seeing local and national matches in my country pretty close to tell people that a well placed kick can hurt.
Manny
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