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Has anyone read the book 'Secrets of Kalis Illustrimo'? Is it any good, I'm looking to possibly get it online but don't know if it's mostly history or techniques realted.
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Originally posted by Crash14
Has anyone read the book 'Secrets of Kalis Illustrimo'? Is it any good, I'm looking to possibly get it online but don't know if it's mostly history or techniques realted.
I've got it and it's a good combination of both.
Yours,
Dan Anderson
Timor Maranga went on to be founder and Grandmaster of TresJoe Eccleston said:I came across this book today, while perusing through at Borders. It was the only book in the Martial Arts shelf about Filipino Martial Arts, so I took it off the shelf, ordered some coffee, took a seat and started reading.
I especially liked the Villabrille expose, regarding his training with Ilustrisimo, the absence of the word 'Kali' until this word pops up out of nowhere in Hawaii, and the debunking of the whole 'Blind Princess of Gandara' story.
I also especially enjoyed the Balintawak connection. Tatang Ilustrisimo was from Cebu, and actually met Timor Maranga as a young boy while serving in prison. It turns out Timor Maranga, who grew up to be one of Balintawak's patriarchs, learned a few techniques from Tatang Ilustrisimo.
Tony Diego and Yuli Romo, both from Cebu also, trained in Balintawak before meeting Tatang Ilustrisimo. Is it just me or do all great eskrimadors from the Philippines hail from the island of Cebu? Very interesting indeed.
Joe Eccleston said:Is it just me or do all great eskrimadors from the Philippines hail from the island of Cebu? Very interesting indeed.
Yes, What Bart Said. Having industry to allow for expendable income and time to train allows for the existence of such a club. And yes this club / organization was almost unique, it was stil not unique, as Abon has pointed out to others elsewhere. So, I apologize for not being clear in the first place, and say thank you to Bart for his point and clarification.bart said:I agree with Rich that it has somewhat to do with the size of Cebu City and it being a large economic center attracting all kinds of people for work and business. But it also has something to do with established organizations. The Labangon fencing club was singular in it's existence as an organization. The Doce Pares club that followed was also a very successful "organization". The existence of organized bodies helps immensely in propagation of any system, be it a martial art, charitable organization, political lobby, etc. Almost every other system to come out of Cebu City has a hierarchy or organizational structure. This helps in pooling funds, brainpower, and in some cases supercedes personal egos that may otherwise conflict greatly and act to restrict growth. Doce Pares International Inc. of GM Dionisio Canete is registered as a national corporation and it is also one of the most proliferate FMA styles around. I think that in Cebu City they just happened to organize early on and that helped foster the growth and spread of those systems.
Joe Eccleston said:Are there other systems outside of CEBU that specialize in inside fighting or corto? or are CEBUANO eskrimadors the only ones who specialize in this range? if there are other in-fighters, where are they from in the Philippines?