Rick Fowler

[RCastillo]

I was surfing through the net today when I ran accross his site for a tape on Lock Flow Drills.

Is anyone here familiar with Mr. Fowler, and his Southwest Kenpo Karate Association? He's out of Dallas/FT. Worth metroplex

Nothing specific about him, just wondering.

Thanks:asian:

 

[Kirk]

Originally posted by RCastillo
I was surfing through the net today when I ran accross his site for a tape on Lock Flow Drills.

Is anyone here familiar with Mr. Fowler, and his Southwest Kenpo Karate Association? He's out of Dallas/FT. Worth metroplex

Nothing specific about him, just wondering.

Thanks:asian:

Well ... I can only tell you what I've heard. The potential for
ticking someone off here is high, but I've seen evidence for some
of this.

He apparently is in a "rich" area, and makes GOOOOOD money
running his school.

I've seen his belt curriculum, and at 154 techniques, you're a 4th
degree black belt. At my current rank (purple) in my school, I
would be a red belt in his, working on black.

I've heard he says he doesn't consider any of his students to be
"serious" students until they're 4th black. I've also heard that
his students work hours on end at each technique, and are
REALLY good at them.

Hope it helps, and I hope I haven't offended anyone.

 

[RCastillo]

Originally posted by Kirk
Well ... I can only tell you what I've heard. The potential for
ticking someone off here is high, but I've seen evidence for some
of this.

He apparently is in a "rich" area, and makes GOOOOOD money
running his school.

I've seen his belt curriculum, and at 154 techniques, you're a 4th
degree black belt. At my current rank (purple) in my school, I
would be a red belt in his, working on black.

I've heard he says he doesn't consider any of his students to be
"serious" students until they're 4th black. I've also heard that
his students work hours on end at each technique, and are
REALLY good at them.

Hope it helps, and I hope I haven't offended anyone.

Kirk,

How do you figure you'd be making anyone mad? I haven't read anything bad based on what you've said, or did I miss something?

:asian:

 

[Seig]

Because people always read stuff into Kirk's posts and then flame him.

 

[cdhall]

Originally posted by RCastillo
I was surfing through the net today when I ran accross his site for a tape on Lock Flow Drills.

Is anyone here familiar with Mr. Fowler, and his Southwest Kenpo Karate Association? He's out of Dallas/FT. Worth metroplex

Nothing specific about him, just wondering.

Thanks:asian:

I've "heard" that Mr. Fowler is a good martial artist but that several years ago he decided to "go for broke" and concentrate on making some money.

Apparently he is making good money. I think he shot some videos with/for Mr. Planas. They used to share an ad in Blackbelt.

Larry Hartsell seems to have a Lockflow drill available on one of his tapes.
http://www.jkdassoc.com/

http://www.jkdassoc.com/cgi-bin/miva?Merchant2/merchant.mv+Screen=PLST&Store_Code=JA
"ENTERING TO TRAPPING TO GRAPPLING" VOL. #1
Code: VID1011
Price: $49.99
Quantity in Basket: none

I think I've posted about this elsewhere but if anyone has seen this tape and the "standing lockflow" drill I'm curious. Thanks.

 

[Kirk]

Originally posted by Seig
Because people always read stuff into Kirk's posts and then flame him.

Yeah, what he said!

 

[cdhall]

http://www.rfkenpo.com/instr_1.html

"Sifu Fowler is a seventh degree black belt who has been teaching and evolving the Kenpo System for over 30 years. He is a second-generation Kenpoist under Sifu Huk Planus."

Rather embarrassing I'd say.

 

[jfarnsworth]

Originally posted by cdhall
[BRather embarrassing I'd say. [/B]

To be under the Planas lineage?

 

[Kenpomachine]

Originally posted by jfarnsworth
To be under the Planas lineage?

Maybe Rick Fowler's attitude?

 

[jfarnsworth]

Perhaps, I just wondered what Mr. Hall was talking about that's all.

 

[Klondike93]

Maybe embarrassed because they can't spell Planas correctly?

I have some of his tapes and thought he did a pretty good job with them. In the yellow belt video he covers some hubud stuff at the end.



:asian:

 

[tarabos]

cdhall must be referring to the "Sifu Huk Planus" part...

never heard anyone call Huk "Sifu" and i've never seen his named spelled "Planus"...

 

[ikenpo]

Originally posted by Kirk
Well ... I can only tell you what I've heard. The potential for
ticking someone off here is high, but I've seen evidence for some
of this.

He apparently is in a "rich" area, and makes GOOOOOD money
running his school.

I've seen his belt curriculum, and at 154 techniques, you're a 4th
degree black belt. At my current rank (purple) in my school, I
would be a red belt in his, working on black.

I've heard he says he doesn't consider any of his students to be
"serious" students until they're 4th black. I've also heard that
his students work hours on end at each technique, and are
REALLY good at them.

Hope it helps, and I hope I haven't offended anyone.

Well,

You didn't say anything too bad about this senior in your lineage, but let me pose some questions. Is it a crime to make a livable wage or more then a livable wage at something you love to do? Is this ok with everything except martial arts? Must an instructor be sworn to a life of poverty?

Curriculum - Everyone has had this discussion and the bottom line seems to be everyone is doing "something different" so to this end no one should throw stones. But looking at his site I will admit I was "surprised" to see his technique breakdown.

The "he said, she said" stuff isn't even worth mentioning. Anyone who really knows the deal, has probably heard a lot worse about that situation.

Is there anything wrong with having students do techniques at nausea?

Finally, my only interaction with Rick Fowler has been through his vids I've watched. He is proficient and technically knowledgable on EPAK, was responsible for "producing" Mr. Planas' series on forms, which are excellent in production value. Also he was wearing a 6th or 7th each time I saw him on video with Mr. Planas so he must have been in his good graces at some point for an extended period of time.

I once trained with a Fowler Brown belt who spoke very highly of his skills and wasn't half bad himself. I always try to look at what a man(woman) has developed in the system (students' abilities) to determine their true ability. Are they unselfish enough to bring their students up to their full potential?

Just my thoughts, jb

 

[Kirk]

Originally posted by jbkenpo
Curriculum - Everyone has had this discussion and the bottom line seems to be everyone is doing "something different" so to this end no one should throw stones.

You're so right. I've been lectured to about how "light" my
school's curriculum is, and I didn't care for being made to feel like
less of a kenpoist.

I don't begrudge anyone any kind of living by teaching, regardless
of the subject matter. I only mentioned it because, from what I've
heard, that's WHY he's designed his curriculum the way he did.

 

[Kenpomachine]

I didn't see anything disrespectful towards Fowler on Kirk's side.
And if my previous msg lead to some misunderstanding, I'm sorry. I was trying to make a guess at what CDHall was referring to as embarrassing. Thought that the Planus was a mispelling...

 

[jfarnsworth]

So many things can be taken out of context so many times and so many different ways. The only way to get true meaning is to ask the person on the phone themselves or in person. This is the only thing I hate about just mere words typed down. Kenpomachine that's all I wondered as well; nothing more and nothing less.

 

[Darren]

I was surfing through the net today when I ran accross his site for a tape on Lock Flow Drills.

Is anyone here familiar with Mr. Fowler, and his Southwest Kenpo Karate Association? He's out of Dallas/FT. Worth metroplex

Nothing specific about him, just wondering.

Thanks:asian:

As a former student of Sufi I will say it works only if you work it!!!!! If you work hard, sweat hard, and train hard you will get noticed!!!!