bushidomartialarts
Senior Master
seconded. really very phenomenal.
Review of Street Sword by Phil Elmore
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seconded. really very phenomenal.
I have this one. I am able to understand the text with no sword background. Well-written and informative.
har @ kreth's post.
hyuck at, well...y'know
hyuck at, well...y'know
I can't believe that the Street Sword book isn't intended as a joke. It's the only way it makes sense. Mr. Elmore seems to have accepted the role of self-parodist.
Paladin is a mixed bag. There's some good stuff there; there's some bad stuff that's still the only stuff on that subject and hence has some value; and there's a lot of garbage and, frankly, fraud (e.g. the collected works of Dr. Haha Lung).
I second the recommendation of Darrell Craig's books.
Paladin is a mixed bag. There's some good stuff there; there's some bad stuff that's still the only stuff on that subject and hence has some value; and there's a lot of garbage and, frankly, fraud (e.g. the collected works of Dr. Haha Lung).
I second the recommendation of Darrell Craig's books.
Xue Sheng
All weight is underside
OH Now you see Kreth
. there you go again throwing facts into this
I mean really the nerve of some people :uhyeah:
I mean really the nerve of some people :uhyeah:
JBrainard
Senior Master
Mr. Elmore's views, in his book and in his response to the review, suggest that he doesn't seem to be quite rooted in reality...
From the review posted here, Phil's reply and some of the stuff on his site about the stupidity and venality of his critics I'm going to pat myself on the back. So far my analysis on the thread the Kreth referenced seems to be in the ten ring. Which is better than my pistol shooting.
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I wonder if he carries dice in his pocket in case of a goblin attack.
Ahem, Phil seems to have a real issue with anyone that disagrees with him publicly. That would be how I ended up getting kicked off of his little website that seems more like a support group for him.
frank raud
Master of Arts
Phil making comments on someone else pasting the same review on multiple forums. The irony. It's gold, Jerry, gold!
Kembudo-Kai Kempoka
Senior Master
Can you say, "narcissistic supply?" I think you can. Say it with me.
Actually, until the last little paragraph containing the 'beefs' it looks more like an abstract or synopsis than a review.
Good luck with that.
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"I give Street Sword two thumbs up. It is the must read martial arts book of the year!" -David Manning
crebralfix
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Since you didn't like this book, which book of similar topic would you recommend?
You can't learn to use a sword from a book. That said, try "Cold Steel" by Alfred Hutton.
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I can't think of any other books that cover similar topics (use of a sword on today's streets). The closest thing, would be comic books to cover sword and pistol. :shooter:
Like someone else said, you can't learn something like this from a book. For reference, there are a number of good books that cover sword use. But they should be used in conjunction with an actual instructor.
For rapier techniques in self defense I'd recommend The Walking Stick Method of Defense by an Officer of the Indian Police.
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While the premise of this book is humourous, my personal opinion on martial arts is this:
Martial Art can be broken up into two terms. Martial; of or pertaining to [military] combat and Art (In this context); perfection of the technique thereof.
So what in the bloody Hell does that mean? It means that we should strive to perfect the techniques (Art) of combat (Martial), making them as efficient as possible (I.E. Not flashy, but effective). How do we do this? By engaging in combat on a daily basis and surviving to teach our disciples how we managed that feat.
By my definition, can you see why Martial Arts are stagnating out of existance? (By the way, I see my definition as the only definition: )
I have no problem with abstract combat theories, as long as they are tried and tested in battle. So, if Phil Elmore were a veteran of "street sword" combat and was writing this book to aid future generations of "street sword" combatants, then I would praise him. But this does not seem to be the case. I have a lot of theories of my own, but until they are battle-proven I cannot sell them when there is a chance that would-be young "street sword" combatants (And Anime fans) could perish because of my "bad advice".
The practicality of being able to defend yourself with a sword (Or any other weapon)? Priceless... as long as you carry that weapon with you - always. Despite it being illegal to carry most weapons, that does not seem to deter criminals. Since no one can see a concealed weapon until you "draw" it, it ends up being a matter of morality and control. With the population growth, land reduction (Attributed to a rising sea level), urbanisation, and funding for law enforcement decreasing, whilst corruption therein increasing, the crime rate is bound to go up.
Where I live, in China, firearm trade is virtually non-existant, the result being that Mafia and other criminals carry all variaties of knives (Including half a metre long elongated butcher knives that are, for all intensive purposes, swords). I, myself, carry a 62cm (fully extended) telescoping steel baton (From a "market" for only 60元. In China, this is a legal weapon to carry (Though I would anyways if it weren't). One must make a habit of carrying. The mobile phone and wallet go in my left pocket and the baton and keys go in the right. Why this choice? To explain that I would have to relate to you my combat theory (Which I am not selling).
Telescopic steel baton + Badaoshu (Battoujutsu) = effective?
While the answer to that "question" remains unanswered, I will continue to carry it and perhaps one day I will find out. In the meantime: TRY IT AND SEE FER YERSELVES!!! I can recall several occasions where my wife and I were walking through parks (in the evening) and I let my hand slide into my pocket (the "ready stance") whilst a group of non-innocent-looking men passed us in narrow alleyways/bridges. Though having martial ability is a plus, you can never under-value martial spirit (Or common sense, but I like to have my evening walks, damnit). I have only had to use what I was taught one time when some Arabians tried to steal my camera in the early evening, but there were countless times during my travels when something almost happened. A cool head and a good "poker face" will fend off most would-be attackers.
In closing... Don't get to caught up in Martial politics and get back to the training hall. Instead of learning from the world wide web and books, why not try the whole wide world? It's far more interesting and after game over there are no re-tries. Enjoy.
Martial Art can be broken up into two terms. Martial; of or pertaining to [military] combat and Art (In this context); perfection of the technique thereof.
So what in the bloody Hell does that mean? It means that we should strive to perfect the techniques (Art) of combat (Martial), making them as efficient as possible (I.E. Not flashy, but effective). How do we do this? By engaging in combat on a daily basis and surviving to teach our disciples how we managed that feat.
By my definition, can you see why Martial Arts are stagnating out of existance? (By the way, I see my definition as the only definition:
)I have no problem with abstract combat theories, as long as they are tried and tested in battle. So, if Phil Elmore were a veteran of "street sword" combat and was writing this book to aid future generations of "street sword" combatants, then I would praise him. But this does not seem to be the case. I have a lot of theories of my own, but until they are battle-proven I cannot sell them when there is a chance that would-be young "street sword" combatants (And Anime fans) could perish because of my "bad advice".
The practicality of being able to defend yourself with a sword (Or any other weapon)? Priceless... as long as you carry that weapon with you - always. Despite it being illegal to carry most weapons, that does not seem to deter criminals. Since no one can see a concealed weapon until you "draw" it, it ends up being a matter of morality and control. With the population growth, land reduction (Attributed to a rising sea level), urbanisation, and funding for law enforcement decreasing, whilst corruption therein increasing, the crime rate is bound to go up.
Where I live, in China, firearm trade is virtually non-existant, the result being that Mafia and other criminals carry all variaties of knives (Including half a metre long elongated butcher knives that are, for all intensive purposes, swords). I, myself, carry a 62cm (fully extended) telescoping steel baton (From a "market" for only 60元
. In China, this is a legal weapon to carry (Though I would anyways if it weren't). One must make a habit of carrying. The mobile phone and wallet go in my left pocket and the baton and keys go in the right. Why this choice? To explain that I would have to relate to you my combat theory (Which I am not selling).Telescopic steel baton + Badaoshu (Battoujutsu) = effective?
While the answer to that "question" remains unanswered, I will continue to carry it and perhaps one day I will find out. In the meantime: TRY IT AND SEE FER YERSELVES!!! I can recall several occasions where my wife and I were walking through parks (in the evening) and I let my hand slide into my pocket (the "ready stance") whilst a group of non-innocent-looking men passed us in narrow alleyways/bridges. Though having martial ability is a plus, you can never under-value martial spirit (Or common sense, but I like to have my evening walks, damnit). I have only had to use what I was taught one time when some Arabians tried to steal my camera in the early evening, but there were countless times during my travels when something almost happened. A cool head and a good "poker face" will fend off most would-be attackers.
In closing... Don't get to caught up in Martial politics and get back to the training hall. Instead of learning from the world wide web and books, why not try the whole wide world? It's far more interesting and after game over there are no re-tries. Enjoy.
