I saw a few clips of Leon Jay (Wally Jay’s son) doing what looked like pressure point strikes.
what do you guys think, is it bs?
This. I love playing with pressure points. My primary art oscillates between focusing too much on them (in frontal choke defenses, for instance) and mostly acting like they don't exist. I like to train them where they are an otherwise-valid target. So if there's a reason to grip the forearm, I'll train to land on the pressure point. If I miss or it doesn't work, the grip was the real point; and if the pressure point has an effect, bonus. Same with strikes to pressure points. I'll only train them if the strike remains useful without the pressure point (I don't have a lot of those).Pressure points work. Except when they don't. And they're inherently difficult to use under pressure when both parties are in motion.
That sums it up very well.Pressure points work. Except when they don't. And they're inherently difficult to use under pressure when both parties are in motion.
The biggest problem with techniques like this is when is an opponent going to give you that position?I saw a few clips of Leon Jay (Wally Jay’s son) doing what looked like pressure point strikes.
what do you guys think, is it bs?
I have not watched the video you quoted, but I use joint locks and pressure points to control violent patients on a far too regular basis.The biggest problem with techniques like this is when is an opponent going to give you that position?
Naturally of course, but the OP asked about the technique in the video. It seems odd to give an answer about a video you never watched.I have not watched the video you quoted, but I use joint locks and pressure points to control violent patients on a far too regular basis.
They don't have to give you the position. You TAKE the position. And just like anything else, if you fail to take the position you wanted, you should have alternatives in mind.
I was just curious as to the clip really, like was it legit, I don’t doubt Leon Jay or his Dads credentials just rarely ever heard of pressure points used like that outside of some ninja stuff.The biggest problem with techniques like this is when is an opponent going to give you that position?
I've seen things like this before. I'm very skeptical.I saw a few clips of Leon Jay (Wally Jay’s son) doing what looked like pressure point strikes.
what do you guys think, is it bs?
+1The biggest problem with techniques like this is when is an opponent going to give you that position?
Not in this case. Nor he is using pressure points to controlo opponent, nor he is using positional dominance/body control to gain sure access to attack the pressure point.I have not watched the video you quoted, but I use joint locks and pressure points to control violent patients on a far too regular basis.
They don't have to give you the position. You TAKE the position. And just like anything else, if you fail to take the position you wanted, you should have alternatives in mind.
I was just curious as to the clip really, like was it legit,..
Why? The answer applies regardless of the specific technique.Naturally of course, but the OP asked about the technique in the video. It seems odd to give an answer about a video you never watched.
In which case it has nothing to do with a conversation about pressure point usage, and you should maybe stay on topic?Not in this case. Nor he is using pressure points to controlo opponent, nor he is using positional dominance/body control to gain sure access to attack the pressure point.
Every comment section for that channel is closed as far as I know+1
I've tried to imagine how this situation could come into being and I've failed.
Not in this case. Nor he is using pressure points to controlo opponent, nor he is using positional dominance/body control to gain sure access to attack the pressure point.
If the comments section on youtube is closed this usually means that presented technique is garbage
No it doesn’t...I asked about a specific situation and exampleWhy? The answer applies regardless of the specific technique.
But I am on the topic. The OP was about one specific situation and technique and my answer is closely related to it.In which case it has nothing to do with a conversation about pressure point usage, and you should maybe stay on topic?
Yeah, to me the most questionable part is moving the head back with the pressure points under the cheekbones. Those hurt if you're standing still so they can get good pressure on them. I highly doubt they're much accessible in the chaos of an actual fight, nor do I think most people in a fight would give in to the pain without doing something in response.My observation of the video shows the left hand of the defender controlling the right arm of the attacker while palm striking the face with his right hand. As the attackers head rocks back the defender places his thumb and finger under the cheek bones pushing the attackers head back further while striking the jaw with a downward palm strike.............the question was do pressure points work, yes under certain situations. In this case a hard hit on a downward angle to the jaw disrupting nerves in the jaw hinge and thus shutting down the brain.
Not really my cup of tea, just my 2 cents....