Pressure Points - General Knowledge

[Rob Broad]

A cun is roughly the width of 2 fingers.

Men and women's Qi flow in opposite directions.

There are 5 elements in pressure points:
Fire - Heart, Small Intetsine, Pericardium, Triple Heater
Water - Bladder, Kidney
Earth - Stomach, Spleen
Metal - Lung, Colon
Wood - Gall Bladder, Liver

Combined and used properly the create the Cycle of Destruction.

Yin is Negative, Yang is Positive.




The information presented here is taken in part from Erle Montaigue's Encyclopaedias of Dim-Mak (Paladin press). http://www.taijiworld.com

 

[Rob Broad]

For those studying Pressure Points whether for healing of defense, you have to deal with polarity. Yin is Negative, and Yang is Positive. But what does it really mean?

Meridian Element Polarity # of Points
Heart Fire Yin 9
Small Intestine Fire Yang 19
Pericardium Fire Yin 9
Triple Heater Fire Yang 23
Lung Metal Yin 11
Large Intestine Metal Yang 20
Gall Bladder Wood Yang 44
Liver Wood Yin 14
Stomach Earth Yang 45
Spleen Earth Yin 21
Bladder Water Yang 67
Kidney Water Yin 27
Conception Center Line Yin 24
Governor Center Line Yang 28

 

[unterlich]

does the dillman's karate also learning this ??

 

[Rob Broad]

does the dillman's karate also learning this ??

Have what?

 

[Xequat]

does the dillman's karate also learning this ??

Yes, DKI teaches this.

 

[bujinclergy]

A cun is roughly the width of 2 fingers.

Cun is exactly the width of the thumb on the person being measured.
Source: Chinese Acupuncture and Moxibustion, Foreign Language Press,
Page pg 114
:asian:

 

[Blooming Lotus]

Studied and used quite a bit of cavity striking myself and on other boards alot of folks think it's dubious in effectiveness because on different ppl, different points seem to " not work". The varying ideas of what quantifies a tsun, pending who you talk to, would probably explain it though. Cheers



Btw: general concensus on origins??? Some say taiji and daoism, others say WC and possibley Ng Mui ( Moi). And for those with theories / information, can you support it with links??

 

[Chronuss]

would there happen to be a diagram located somewhere on the board that depicts the primary, secondary, and tertiary meridians overlapped on the body?

 

[Rob Broad]

Unless someone else has sent them to Kaith, I will say there is not a diagram that depicts the primary, secondary, and tertiary meridians overlapped on the body here on MartialTalk.

 

[Blooming Lotus]

Here's a few links to get you started:

http://www.taijiworld.com/

http://www.bookhub.co.uk/DimMak_Death_Point_Striking__0873647181.html

http://www.tcmstudent.com/pointtabs.shtml

http://www.tcmstudent.com/qiflow.shtml

http://www.tcmstudent.com/cunmeasure.shtml

http://www.tcmstudent.com/mushu.shtml

http://www.infinitevitalheart.com/Acupuncture%20Meridian%20Charts.html

http://www.opengroup.com/srbooks/096/0963199641.shtml


MAN!!!! Maybe 15 pages of searches under different terms later and finally found an actual chart for you all. Incredible, I've had mine for so long that it surprises me on the net now, everyone wants you to buy them ( rolleyes here), here you go and enjoy anyway.

http://theamt.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=211

Blooming Lotus

 

[Xequat]

Figures, hehe. Looks like they labeled Pericardium as the Governing Vessel. I've never heard it called that before. Oops.

 

[ppko]

They also didn't mention Conception or Duece (Also known as governor) Meridians

 

[Blooming Lotus]

They're personally not my chart of choice either, but considering there wasn't one at all on these boards , for someone who's never seen one, it's certainly better than none right?? If you have kaazar and want a great set, Earle Montaigue has some of the best charts I've seen, or maybe find something by Dr.Poe from Melbourne Aus.

Btw : pressure point striking in karate is called "tuite" right??

BL

 

[RRouuselot]

Cun is exactly the width of the thumb on the person being measured.
Source: Chinese Acupuncture and Moxibustion, Foreign Language Press,
Page pg 114
:asian:

Thanks.
I enjoy it when someone actaully goes to the trouble of posting correct information on TCM instead of just buying into what most of the TCM wannabees are saying on this board and others.


Rob Broad,

When you and the rest of the others that write about TCM, Kyusho, Pressure Points get qualified as in "licensed"…as in from a legit school…. then I will take what you write seriously. Until then if you are going to post something that you actually write instead of cutting and pasting info from other sources please check and make sure it’s accurate.

 

[Blooming Lotus]

I have a funny feeling that remark was directed at me. I don't have a degree in tcm ( not yet anyway), but I have been studying it and its principals for 15 + yrs. I challenge any non- tcm degree holder to a discussion if you must prove something.

Btw : and qualified is quanfitied how exactly?? As long as it makes sense and is in accordance to my morale standards, I 'm just going to hear you out and consider what you say anyway. The best gems are found in the most unlikely corners.

dsai jian

Blooming Lotus

btw : Regardless of who you're dircecting that comment at, I've always known a tsun to be a thumb of the person on whose body is relevant myself, but to know what others are thinking and how and why they're defining it that way, as teachers and instructors, as opposed to say exclusive supremist elite club subsricribers is a great tool in our instruction. Be a little generous ha Mr. Registered one !!!?. To peg and understand their flawing is to improve your knowledge of what you're teaching and what needs to be taught. No need to be gnarly though....... didn't anyone tell you "tis the to be merry "..... little good will no??

 

[RRouuselot]

I have a funny feeling that remark was directed at me. I don't have a degree in tcm ( not yet anyway), but I have been studying it and its principals for 15 + yrs. I challenge any non- tcm degree holder to a discussion if you must prove something.

Btw : and qualified is quanfitied how exactly?? As long as it makes sense and is in accordance to my morale standards, I 'm just going to hear you out and consider what you say anyway. The best gems are found in the most unlikely corners.

dsai jian

Blooming Lotus

Actually it wasn't directed at you but several others that are "regulars" on the TCM, PP, Kyusho threads on ,out of the BBs out there.

 

[Blooming Lotus]

fair enough, but there are better ways to get your point across than demean the underdog / student ....dong ma??

BL

 

[RRouuselot]

Btw : pressure point striking in karate is called "tuite" right??

BL

No

 

[RRouuselot]

fair enough, but there are better ways to get your point across than demean the underdog / student ....dong ma??

BL

To be brutally honest I dislike reading incorrect blatherings by untrained “armchair acupuncturists” and wannabee TCM people that in most cases pass off generaly useless and/or incorrect knowledge…..OR in the off chance it is correct has been swiped from some website.
For these people to espouse their knowledge is as useless as me posting all I know about brain surgery.

 

[Blooming Lotus]

No

ohh........ no beef Rouuselot..... fair comments I guess.I'm a mommy and a teacher though so we types tend to use a little more patience.

cheers anyway

Blooming Lotus