Did Hwang Kee ever give Bon numbers to guys who left the TSDMDK, to join Taesoodo/taekwondo Unified Kwans?
So your teacher knows the KwanBopBu Chinese forms as well?Hwang Kee --- Oh Sae Joon --- Lee Jung Hwan --- Me (Michael Sabia)
My teacher also was the nephew through marriage of Ji Do Kwan founder Yoon Kwai Byeong, who trained under Mabuni Kenwa and Toyama Kanken, and trained with him, as well.
Yoon Byung-In and Yoon Kwai Byung were not the same person. Yoon Byung-In dissapeared sometime during the Korean War, while Yoon Kwai Byung continued to teach afterward in Seoul. However, this is an easy mistake because both were 4th Dan Shihan registered in the Shudokan under Toyama. Also, Yoon Kwai Byung ran a dojo in Japan proper called the Kanbukan in the 1940s.
As of this moment, I am very much of a personal opinion that Yoon Byung-In (this has support) and Yun Kwei-byung (no evidence yet) taught Hwang Kee okinawan forms.As I cross-train with a local Renbukai school (in KU I might add!) here in town, I can tell you some more goodies on Yun Kwei-byung:
- they still revere him.
- they don't really understand tang soo do at all in the sense that they tend to lump me in the taekwondo stylists. Its very hard to tell them how many similarities there are between renbukai and the tangsoodo that I practice.
- I now see that modern "moodukkwan" has jidokwan techniques in it. I see this because the renbukai school does almost the same thing as I do, or others do.
- for example, the way they do junbi chase (naturally they use a japanese term) is the pull back to the hips and put the hands out in front of the groin, just like most of us do
- i now see two junbi chase styles in moo duk kwan: the pull back to hips and push out is very jidokwan/renbukai in style. the cross arms across the body and down to the waist level is much more shotokan style.
Another really huge interesting thing? This renbukai school, and Pat McCarthy and his KU techniques, emphasize flowing full body movements and hip rotations in every technique. Hmm, where have I seen that before? Definitely not exclusive to MDK as some think...
Welcome DrewI need to get more information as to this from my Grandfather as I was always told the bellow was our lineage, however I've seen other people list him as a direct student under Hwang Kee. So its either:
or as my grandfather told me long ago
Jong Soo Hong
Chong Bok Lee