bignick said:
(Part 1)that's one of the problem's the RIAA and the movie industry have gotten themselves into...you are allowed to make copies for your own personal purposes if you already own the material..
(Part 2)but these companies are trying to stop all copying...which is illegal...you have the right to back up your own property...but the industries are adding security that tries to make it impossible for you to do so...
which is very ineffective by the way...as soon as they come out with a new security feature it's broken within weeks, if not days or hours...so they have to spend all this money on R & D to develop the "security" when it has done absolutely no good...anyone with an ounce of determination can copy any DVD, software, CD...anything
(Part 1)
Are you allowed to is the question, it depends who you ask, if you ask the majority of the bands them selfs, the probly dont care if you make a copy of there music as a back up, chances are they do it themselfs as well, if you ask the compainy that sells the cds, they will say no, why? becouse if you damange your cd, your have to buy a new one, thus they make 20 bucks.
Now movies, are generally the same thing, the people who made the movies, the directors and so on, chances are made there money before it got made, unlesst hey do a liecenceing deal, so they probly dont care what you do, there allready paid, but the releasing compiany do care becouse they make the money off the home release and so on.
(part 2)
The movie and music compainys(the people that sell the cds, and the dvds not the people who make them(artist,directors,ect)) create these 'Copy Proof' cds, weather or not you have the right to back it up is said in part 1
Now you are correct, if there is a will theres a way, some people love these to come out just for the chalaanges of breaking the algarithim used to encrypt the code, the might not even care about the music or distrubutiing the mp3s, they just like the challange, now there are some that crack it to "keep the music free" or whatever
A Great story about the copyright cds comes from the creaters of cds: Sony and Phillips, in short they those compainys created cds, the OWN the copyright to the actuall CD and how the data is stored on the cd. So when universal and so on started to release Copyright cds, Sony sued them,
Sony sued them saying that there copyright cds, are vialating there copyrights on the cd itself. Sony said they created a cd to freely transfer data and so on and by making it so this data is 'copyrighting' vialates the copyright, and so they said that the only was Sony will not sue them, is by 1) Never calling them a CD or Compact Disk, by having to redesign the transfering of data and how it holds data, these CopyrightCDs have to be in a totally diffrent area in any cd selling area, they cant not be mixed into the same group, they have to be on a totally diffrent shelf and so on, they cant be played on nomal cd players(they cant be anyways), and so on, or 2) they can stop making copyright cds, and thus, you dont see copyright cds anymore.
Now about what they said on ABC
They went to people who checked and compaire the cd to downloading, to see if they can have proofthat mp3 downloading is killing the music indestry, long story short, it takes about 5,000 downloads to stop the sell of 1 cd that is when you get down to spacifics, but on the grande scall that they showed that over all they diffrence from before and after mp3s downloading came out they diffrence in sales are so small that it is almost not noticable
But though the cd people show that people are buying 1/3 less cds in 2000s then they did in the 1990s, and they just proved that mp3s are NOT the cause of this, they said that everyone is mixxed up, that in the 2000s they yes they lost 1/3 but technicly this should be the normal level, and that infact they gained 1/3 in the 1990s and what is now is the normal level, but how can they gain 1/3 in the 1990s and lost it?
Well first off Rap became increadbly popular along with the whole boy bands, this greatly boosted sales becouse no one has ever heard od rap or nsync, but now in 2000 people have heard it befroe and no longer care, it is no longer new
People and kids had more money in the 1990s then before, thus more money to spend on cds, and now that they dont have as much money, they dont buy cds
Also everyone was jumping on the cd bandwagon, all babyboombers was buying cds of bands they had on vinal and so on, well now they all own all the cds of there past that they want.
That is what they said about the music selling and mp3
heres about the mp3s downloading
There used to be a thing called a 'Single', where you can buy just a few songs from a band you like for like 3 dollars.
The cd selling people (sece it costs as much to make a cd with 1 song as it does a cd with 12 songs(printing and distributing wise)) they fadded out singles, when they did this a thing that abc called "The Chubthumpa Theiory " came into place (Chubthumpa is the name of the band that did the song
"When i get knocked down, i get up again, your never gonna keep me down" song) This one song became a phenomanaon and everyone went out and bought there cd for that song, this cd cost 15-20 bucks, everyone that ABC asked about this band said that the other 12 songs on that cd was the WORST songs they have ever heard and everyone refused to by there next cd. Now im sure there are a lot of you that have bout a cd for 1 or 2 songs, and hated the rest of the music on that cd and was pissed that you just spend 20 bucks on 2 songs, then napster came out, and everyone loved listing to JUST the music they liked, but not only can they losten to the music they like, but they can freely listen to music of people and styles they never heard of. Music perfessors are saying that during this "era" that more music was going to more people then any other time ever in history.
Now the RIAA started saying we where killing the music indistry(just liek they said when radios came out), actually people might be buying less 'popular' music and buying more of the bands that they never hear on the radio(AE: I persanlay dont listen to the radio, 90% of my 3k songs are japanese and Rock/Metal bands you will never or very rarly hear on the radio, also i own the high majority of the american or bands that are avalable in the US that i have the mp3s for) So ABC stats that people are making up for the lack of 'singles' and are tired of buying a 20 dollar cd for 1 song they like, so that they started using to napster, they can now get the songs they want to have(and free helped),now the RIAA are stating taht this transfer of music on line, is causing cd sells to drop, there not, ABC proved that mp3s are not effectig overall sales, but now people instead of buying the cd for 1 song,(would you spend 20 bucks on a cd that you know you only like 2 songs, or a cd you downloaded and like 10 ot of the 12 songs?)
I was glad that a news group stated the known truth and challanged the RIAA statements
