Lunch police...

[ballen0351]

. In high school, they started selling Arby's and Taco Bell right out of the cafeteria.e.

Well they are the two of most health fast food places. If you look at the food info they are not bad prob even compared to a real school lunch.

 

[granfire]

Well they are the two of most health fast food places. If you look at the food info they are not bad prob even compared to a real school lunch.

Taco bell, at least it all has some real lettuce in it..

But that is another weird thing in our food pyramid:
Cereal=good
even if it is cookie crisp...
Cookies=bad
even if made with stuff like whole grain flour, raisins, nuts, etc...
And when you look closer, you might be just as well off - or better - to have a handful of cookies and a glass of milk for breakfast.

got chewed out in school one time when I had some sort of a cake like thing for breakfast. Wasn't the usual occurrance, but hey, teacher asked what breakfast was that day...stuff was sweet, I think it had honey in it...tasted great with butter...
(Teacher was a huge jerk tho...probably the only person in the world I am close to hating, even after 25 years)

 

[ballen0351]

Taco bell, at least it all has some real lettuce in it..

But that is another weird thing in our food pyramid:
Cereal=good
even if it is cookie crisp...
Cookies=bad
even if made with stuff like whole grain flour, raisins, nuts, etc...
And when you look closer, you might be just as well off - or better - to have a handful of cookies and a glass of milk for breakfast.

got chewed out in school one time when I had some sort of a cake like thing for breakfast. Wasn't the usual occurrance, but hey, teacher asked what breakfast was that day...stuff was sweet, I think it had honey in it...tasted great with butter...
(Teacher was a huge jerk tho...probably the only person in the world I am close to hating, even after 25 years)

Food Pyramids are out thats so year 2000.

 

[Steve]

Saw the link.

What do you guys think we should do? Do you guys think shutting down school cafeterias and forcing parents to feed their kids would be better? Is there a middle ground? What are the answers?

 

[ballen0351]

I don't believe this happened. Could you provide a link to where you "read" about this lunch lady forcing a child to purchase a school lunch and confiscating her food from home? It sounds like BS to me.

I remember it being on the news a few months ago. Ill see if I can find it but the school offical said a turkey sandwich wasnt good enough and made her take the school lunch.

 

[granfire]

Food Pyramids are out thats so year 2000.

LOL, forgive me for not being up to date on my plate thing...it's lunch time and I have not eaten my cookies yet!

 

[ballen0351]

Heres a few links

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/n-c...ome-after-determining-its-not-healthy-enough/
or
http://www.carolinajournal.com/exclusives/display_exclusive.html?id=8762

 

[ballen0351]

opps guess you beat me too it

 

[ballen0351]

Saw the link.

What do you guys think we should do? Do you guys think shutting down school cafeterias and forcing parents to feed their kids would be better? Is there a middle ground? What are the answers?

I dont think its hard to make better food in schools. That show I saw (I got to find out what it was) the chef was able to make better food for not much more cost. The problem is the workers need to do more work and the kids need to eat it. getting the kids to eat it will be the hard part. my daughter wont eat anything. Her diet consists of Peas and Carrots, plain noodles, or chicken nuggets. She refuses to eat or try anything else. Im talking major blowout fights with her to try something else. The doc says as long as shes eatting something its better then forcing her and she not eatting.

She did try a steamed crab this weekend and liked them so hopefully shes growing out of it.

 

[granfire]

I dont think its hard to make better food in schools. That show I saw (I got to find out what it was) the chef was able to make better food for not much more cost. The problem is the workers need to do more work and the kids need to eat it. getting the kids to eat it will be the hard part. my daughter wont eat anything. Her diet consists of Peas and Carrots, plain noodles, or chicken nuggets. She refuses to eat or try anything else. Im talking major blowout fights with her to try something else. The doc says as long as shes eatting something its better then forcing her and she not eatting.

She did try a steamed crab this weekend and liked them so hopefully shes growing out of it.

yep, getting the kids to eat it is the hard part. Especially in the less affluent districts. Seen it with my own eyes, a continent away. The people with the least exposure are the pickiest.

 

[ballen0351]

You have to start young by the time they reach high school it too late. I grew up poor and on things like hot dogs and processed foods. I hated vegitables. It wasnt until my late 20s i even started eatting them at all. Only in the last few years have i started eatting them regulary. To me they were nasty. For my kids we decided not to let that happen to them so from the start we have given them fresh veggies and fruits and my kids other then my one daughter will eat any veggie you put in front of them.

 

[Steve]

yep, getting the kids to eat it is the hard part. Especially in the less affluent districts. Seen it with my own eyes, a continent away. The people with the least exposure are the pickiest.

kids will eat whatever you give them. They may balk at first, but they'll eat it.

 

[granfire]

kids will eat whatever you give them. They may balk at first, but they'll eat it.

your kids, maybe
I know my own is easy care when it comes to food.

But the majority is not.
But not in a setting like school, especially when they do get to go home after. The food will end up in the trash. Better junk food in the kids than good food in the trash.

 

[ballen0351]

kids will eat whatever you give them. They may balk at first, but they'll eat it.

Not at school not when.they know in a few more hours they can leave and hit Mcadonalds on the way home. Young kids maybe but high school and middle school no way.

 

[MJS]

I used to volunteer time at a food bank. Many of the clients didn't have basic cooking skills. They had no idea how to cook fresh vegetables or staples like beans and rice until we started offering cooking classes. We got in a big truck of fresh produce once and most of the clients passed up offerings like carrots and tomatoes for Rice-a-Roni and canned spaghetti sauce.

Whats interesting also, is the healthy options for the bad foods. They had a chef on TV one day, with 3 different not os healthy foods, which were fried chicken, fried seafood, and fried mozzarella. He showed how many cals. were in each of those, and then gave a more healthy version, of the same food. It was amazing to see how the cals. were pretty much cut in half and then some.

The other downside is its a fact that eating healthy isn't cheap. Think about it. Take $10 and go to McDonalds. Take that same $10 and go to the grocery store. That $10 is going to go much further at the burger joint, using the dollar menu, vs trying to pay for veggies at the store.

Of course, eating right is only part of it. Exercising is a plus as well. And FWIW, I'm certainly not a health nut. I treat myself, but in moderation.

 

[MJS]

My point in all of this is that having the feds insert themselves even deeper into the situation is not going to improve it. Does anyone disagree with that...

I dont disagree with that.

 

[MJS]

Saw the link.

What do you guys think we should do? Do you guys think shutting down school cafeterias and forcing parents to feed their kids would be better? Is there a middle ground? What are the answers?

I dont think that shutting down the cafe is the answer. Like I said, once the kids leave school, nothing says that they can't chow down on junk. Would educating people on the better ways of eating work? Maybe, maybe not. Take a look at this link.

http://www.cromwell.k12.ct.us/chs/page.php?pid=50

Its the breakfast/lunch menu for some schools in my hometown. What are your thoughts on the food selection?

 

[WC_lun]

Granfire, I actually agree with you. There is a reason childhood obesity is at all time highs here in the States. Parents SHOULd tech thier children how to eat well, but lets face it, most parents lack that skill as well. However, if a child does understand good nutrition, they should be able to get that at thier school. While they might be few and far between, there are some parents who are teaching thier children correctly. Too me it is just rediculous that it is easier to get a slice of pizza or a junk food at a school than a proper meal.

 

[Empty Hands]

Too me it is just rediculous that it is easier to get a slice of pizza or a junk food at a school than a proper meal.

Good God man, are you insane? If children can't easily obtain terrible food from school, then Socialism wins!

 

[Steve]

Not at school not when.they know in a few more hours they can leave and hit Mcadonalds on the way home. Young kids maybe but high school and middle school no way.

Actually, the opposite proved to be true in Jamie Oliver's television show (referenced earlier). If given a choice, the kids always chose sugary strawberry or chocolate milk over white milk. But once those choices went away, within a few days, they happily drank the white milk. Same for the food. They balked initially, and when given a choice, always chose sugary, processed foods. But when the choice was removed, they ate healthier foods happily.