What is the actuall difference between the two kata and juru. So far it would seems as if the juru's are not particular techniques but body positional movements and transitional points for the body to apply techniques. Clear as mud? In kata it seems that some techniques are very evident where others have to be explained, but within the juru there is a lot more that is hidden. I love theory of movement more than learning technique after technique. In prior years kata seemed boring, as first of all we learned little bunkai. But the jurus seem interesting to me. Different teachers maybe? I am new to silat. And when does a silat (guru) develope there own juru?