John Danaher: "The next big evolution in Bjj is developing a unique standing position"

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If you understood the history of BJJ and the approach of the practitioners, you wouldn't believe that nonsense. Its original primary influence (likely not the only initial influence) was Judo. It's far from a "copy and paste".

This is copy and pasted Judo
 

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The BJJ curriculum started out as one and the same as judo - thats not a subject of debate
But it has evolved differently for quite a while and should rightly be considered as a separate style now
 

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The BJJ curriculum started out as one and the same as judo - thats not a subject of debate
But it has evolved differently for quite a while and should rightly be considered as a separate style now

Kosen Judo existed before BJJ, although tied tog Japan and with win by pinning. This obviously makes a difference but plenty of Kosen Judokas have submitted BJJ guys.
 
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Leg locks werent originally in BJJ competitions either, which is more evidence that they copy and pasted from Kosen Judo.

Uh, yes they were. They were looked down upon, but they were still practiced because BJJ had a huge rivalry with Luta Livre for decades, and those guys used leg locks constantly. This is how Royce Gracie was able to counter Ken Shamrock's leg lock attempt at the start of their match in UFC. Royce saw it coming a mile away because Bjj practitioners had fought leg-lockers for years.

In modern BJJ, competitive leg locks largely come from either Catch, 10th Planet or Danher's leg lock system. I don't know where you're getting the notion that Bjj copy pasted from Kosen Judo because the rule sets are entirely different.

Like for example, there's no leg locks allowed in Kosen Judo.
 
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This is copy and pasted Judo

That video is from 60 years ago. Do you really think that Bjj hasn't changed in 60 years? FYI, Bjj has changed dramatically in the last 10 years.
 

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Kosen Judo existed before BJJ, although tied tog Japan and with win by pinning. This obviously makes a difference but plenty of Kosen Judokas have submitted BJJ guys.

Sure
No one is suggesting that BJJ, Kodokan Judo and Kosen Judo are not related or that BJJ isnt derived from Judo
 
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Kosen Judo existed before BJJ, although tied tog Japan and with win by pinning. This obviously makes a difference but plenty of Kosen Judokas have submitted BJJ guys.
I'm not sure how that relates to the post you quoted.
 

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If you understood the history of BJJ and the approach of the practitioners, you wouldn't believe that nonsense. Its original primary influence (likely not the only initial influence) was Judo. It's far from a "copy and paste".
Oh stop the griping. BJJ was made by bunch of Mayan Aliens [emoji89] [emoji1787]

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I believe that BJ and self defense is the best of the sport. You can contact most Bjj academies and study
 

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