It is OK when Democrat invoke religion

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Black lawmakers emotional about Obama's success
By: Josephine Hearn

The Politico
Excerpt:
June 5, 2008 01:04 PM EST

Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.) was about to enter his Capitol Hill office on Wednesday afternoon when a tourist from Miami rushed up to him.

“I was watching Barack last night, and I just kept thinking, ‘What would Dr. King think?’” the tourist, Larry Ellery, told Lewis expectantly.

As the only living person to have spoken at the lectern the day the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. gave his “I Have a Dream” speech, Lewis was perhaps the best person to answer a question that occupied the minds of many Americans.

Lewis touched Ellery’s arm and paused.

“He would have been very, very pleased,” Lewis said. “He probably would have said, ‘Hallelujah!’”

On Capitol Hill, as across the country Wednesday, African-Americans reflected on Illinois Democratic Sen. Barack Obama’s historic rise as the first black presidential nominee to lead a major political party. They noted that only a few decades ago, African-Americans were fighting across large swaths of the South for basic human rights, hardly pondering the possibility that one of them might soon lead the country.

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Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. (D-Ill.), son of the one-time presidential contender, said Obama’s victory overwhelmed him.

“I cried all night. I’m going to be crying for the next four years,” he said. “What Barack Obama has accomplished is the single most extraordinary event that has occurred in the 232 years of the nation’s political history. ... The event itself is so extraordinary that another chapter could be added to the Bible to chronicle its significance.”

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First of all, MLK Jr was a Republican. Second, he wanted people judged, not by the color of their skin, but, by the content of their character, Obama just doesn't live up to that. His entire campaign has been little more, than "vote for me, I'm black" That is the LAST thing anyone should want and would likely have enraged Rev, King.
Had a republican made a statement like Congressman Jackson (Racebaiter Ill) he'd have been pilloried on every news show, on every channel for weeks, but, then he wouldn't have been promoting Saint Barry the Obamamessiah. Had a republican, well had anyone but a liberal democrat said such a thing we'd hear screeching from the ACLU, America United for the Separation of Church and State, etc.
What do we hear now?
Crickets...

 

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First of all, MLK Jr was a Republican. Crickets...


No one knows what Dr. King's party affiliation was; there is no record of his having registered with any political party. While it's likely that his father was a registered Republican-as most people of color who were registered with any party were, especially those from the south-it's equally likely that Dr. King had ties to the Communist party. At the very least, in his writings he spoke a great deal of the country's need for "democratic socialism."
 

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Isn't a mountain being contructed out of a molehill here?

I read the OP and the strongest reactions I got were:

i) If "His entire campaign has been little more, than "vote for me, I'm black"" is true, then, speculatively I concur "That is the LAST thing anyone should want and would likely have enraged Rev, King." would be true.


ii) In response to “I cried all night. I’m going to be crying for the next four years,” he said. “What Barack Obama has accomplished is the single most extraordinary event that has occurred in the 232 years of the nation’s political history. ... The event itself is so extraordinary that another chapter could be added to the Bible to chronicle its significance.” ... a little overblown don't you think? Oh wait, isn't/wasn't his father an evangelist?

I don't see the words quoted in (ii) as invoking religion but that's probably because I don't view the world through the same filter, being English, Liberal and Agnostic. I interpreted it as the son of a preacher stretching for a strong allegory for his feelings and reaching too far. Nothing more than that.
 

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I'm sorry Don, but, once again, what point?

I've often said, and will say again, that my parents marched with Dr. King, and knew him. It's hard for me to imagine him embracing the Republican party of today, never mind the Republicans embracing a virulent, radical, anti-capitalist. Dr. King planned on having a Poor People's Campaign, engaging the poor in massive civil disobedience. King wanted the government to provide income for all citizens and massive job programs.

I think I remember that being part of BuSh's campaign platform. What was it called? Oh, yeah, No Dime Left Behind?:rolleyes:

King wrote that about "capitalists of the West investing huge sums of money in Asia, Africa and South America, only to take the profits out with no concern for the social betterment of the countries." King felt that around the world that America was "on the wrong side of a world revolution" and asked why America sided with "the landed gentry of Latin America" while putting down movements "of the shirtless and barefoot people."

Yes, now that my memory has been jogged, I recall hearing all the Republican calls for worldwide revolution of the downtrodden and poor against their rich oppressors.:rolleyes:

In a 1967 speech, King called America "the greatest purveyor of violence in the world today." He said that the United States acted like the Nazis. He furthermore encouraged anyone eligible for the draft to become pacifists and conscientious objectors. King argued that "the giant triplets of racism, materialism and militarism" were interlocked and caused oppression, injustice and poverty.

No doubt Dr. King would stand right along side President Bush and John McCain in holding the course in Iraq.:rolleyes:

King's father had been a registered Republican at one point. But then MLK Sr., in 1960 openly endorsed John Fitzgerald Kennedy, Jr. In that era , 70 per cent of black neighborhoods voted for Kennedy. By 1964, 94 percent of blacks voted for LBJ. The same percentage voted for Hubert Humphrey in 1968. The former Republican MLK, Sr. promoted Jimmy Carter and deliver the invocations at 1976 and 1980 Democratic National Conventions.

That was very Republican of him.:rolleyes:

As for what Jesse Jackson III said, it's a metaphor, and hardly an "invocation of religion." No one pilloried Mike Huckabee for using relisious metaphors during his campaign, and no one (but you) is going after the son of a minister for using a somewhat overblown metaphor.

As for how Dr. King would feel about the Obama himself, who can say? While youmight perceive his campaign as lttle more than "vote for me; I'm black" his supporters wouldn't agree with you. And, if prominent black Republicans like Colin Powell and Condoleeza Rice can note the historical significance of having a major party candidate for President be black, and as a fulfillment of part of that dream of his, it's easy to bet that Dr. King would have as well.
 

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As for what Jesse Jackson III said, it's a metaphor, and hardly an "invocation of religion." No one pilloried Mike Huckabee for using relisious metaphors during his campaign, and no one (but you) is going after the son of a minister for using a somewhat overblown metaphor.
Really, no one attacked Huckabee?
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I've often said, and will say again, that my parents marched with Dr. King, and knew him. It's hard for me to imagine him embracing the Republican party of today, never mind the Republicans embracing a virulent, radical, anti-capitalist.

Why do you hate America? ;)
 

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