Impact weapons?

KenpoTex

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Just curious to see what types of impact weapons everybody carries/uses. Note: I'm not interested in things you may train with at the studio (bo-staffs, sticks, etc.), I want to see what you actually carry on a daily basis whether it's job-related or just for personal protection.
Why do you carry the tool? What do you like about it? Dislike?

Show me what y'all got...I love gear-porn :D

Here are the ones that I carry or have carried at various times.
Clockwise from left:

-21" ASP Collapsable baton--Great tool, very versatile. The downside is that it's heavy.
-9" 14 oz. Blackjack, manufacturer unknown--absolutely wicked, hit someone with this and it's over. Unfortunately, awkward and heavy to carry.
-8" 10 oz. "Van De Camp" flat-sap, made by Todd Foster--Much easier to carry than the 'jack or baton, still hits hard. Good retention due to strap, designed to hit with the edge rather than the flat in order to focus more energy at the point of contact. Downsides? haven't found one yet.
-Worden "Travel-Wrench" impact karambit--very versatile, doesn't look like a weapon to most people, good retention due to the ring. Downside-it's a little weird to carry due to the shape
-5 1/2" Kubaton, aluminium--one of my favorites...easy to carry, very effective and a variety of objects can perform the same role (flashlight, marker, etc.) Downside? limited range
-Keating "Stinger"--vicious little devil :D can be attached to keys and carried in hand, focuses a tremendous amount of force on the target, easy to hide. downside-you're limited to punching range.
 

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woaaa what an arsenal u have there, i usually just rely on my belt or screwdriver. the long kind. nasty for thrusting.
 

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The Great Toad Hoard has quite a number, but I don't generally carry around museum pieces on a daily basis. The ones I actually take when leaving the house depend on a lot of things but include bookweights, flat saps, palm saps, a cane-length knobkerrie, a belt with a truly fearsome buckle, weighted scarves and a cane carved out of a pick handle.
 

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I will swear by the baton. I just almost used it again last night. I had my hand around it in my pocket, ready to draw, but the situation de-escalated by itself and it wasn't necessary. Just knowing it was there was a major confidence booster. The others I dislike because of range - especially the Kubaton. And the knife also because it is difficult to use without killing or creating irriversable damage.
 

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I carry and teach the Monodnock Auto Lock baton, far superior to Asp..I carry a Kubotan but never brandish it, its more of a painful surprise..I also carry one of the canes from CaneMasters..I have the privledge of attending a quite class taught by GM Mark Shuey Sr the founder...
 

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Metal kubotan on the keychain. Even though I'll use my Spyderco Police knife before it, sometimes, you need a hard, blunt tool, when edged weapons aren't idea.

While in my car, though, that's a different story. I have a 5 D-cell Maglite flashlight (loaded up with 5 D-cell Energizer batteries), just in case if I need to change a tire at night time, and a Brazilian Cherry (Jatoba) Hanbo that I keep in there in case if someone needs a makeshift tourniquet.

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I have a few pieces that I have carried at various times in the past and still keep close.

Worden Travel Wrench -- One in the visor of the car, and one in the gear bag for training. I like it and train with it often.

Keating Stinger -- Light and easy to carry with a Rivercity sheath I got it with. I like it and carry one in the gear bag to train with. I put the keychain sheath on the keys from time to time, but it's not EDC.

Combative Customs cane -- This has been going everywhere lately. It's bulletproof and low key. I make these BTW. It's .750 solid fiberglass with a red Oak handle.
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Saps -- What can I say... I made these too.:D
I don't carry one, but feel they are would be much better than a knife when used properly. They do not need to be used with lethal intent to be effective, and would expose you to much less bio-hazard should you employ one. They have certainly been making a comeback in popularity.
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My favorite all time impacting tool,
A 12" stick with a set of ***** at the other end. Bought it in 1982, has never failed me.
 

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Classic truncheon! Gotta love the old stuff... I still know a couple of cops who carry a hickory stick. (One guy has the stick his father used... And has added his own dents to it.)

Me... I carry a 26" ASP. I own a similar Monadnock Autolock, but I'm not permitted to carry items not issued to me by the department, outside strict limits. (The Autolock is nicer 'cause it can be opened by pulling on it, and closed by pushing the button, not thrusting into the pavement.)
 

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Keating Stinger

Inova XO3 flashlight, I like it because it doesn't look "tactical" in way an accessorized Surefire does. Bright enough to blind in day and sturdy enough to act as a decen fistload.
 

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Classic truncheon! Gotta love the old stuff... I still know a couple of cops who carry a hickory stick. (One guy has the stick his father used... And has added his own dents to it.)

Me... I carry a 26" ASP. I own a similar Monadnock Autolock, but I'm not permitted to carry items not issued to me by the department, outside strict limits. (The Autolock is nicer 'cause it can be opened by pulling on it, and closed by pushing the button, not thrusting into the pavement.)

How is the quality of the 26"? I heard that because they are the same weight as the 21" they are more likely to break. Or is that true of other companies. I don't like the Autolock because there are more ways that it can fail you. If one employs the system I developed for the telescopic baton (Bagunshu), they will find that it is indeed an almost perfect self defense weapon. Try deploying it from straight out of your pocket. ;)
 

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woaaa deadly. that can easily tore off some skin, just wanna ask, is it legal to carry these things in ur country.
 

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I had an expandable Monadnock that had been issued to me. I only used it when I ran baton classes at the police academy or at a police baton seminar. A few years ago I was demonstrating to a class on how you can stike someone with the end on the stick while making the expansion swing. The expandable baton broke at the securement pin letting the plastic end fly out of the metal handle striking a student in the face. I had two more break while making this same expansion swing.
Trust them now I do not.
 

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I had an expandable Monadnock that had been issued to me. I only used it when I ran baton classes at the police academy or at a police baton seminar. A few years ago I was demonstrating to a class on how you can stike someone with the end on the stick while making the expansion swing. The expandable baton broke at the securement pin letting the plastic end fly out of the metal handle striking a student in the face. I had two more break while making this same expansion swing.
Trust them now I do not.

You BROKE an AutoLock??????????????????Now that's the reason I still carry my old fashion one piece PR-24..I broke the original assisting the FD on a fire under a bridge, but that's a story best told over a beer or several...
 

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Drac,
Tomorrow I will take a photo of it and post the jpeg on this thread.

That is scary...I have used my Monodnock Auto Lock numerous times in classes without incident..Maybe its living on borrowed time...
 

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Go the the stationary or supplies area of your work place.

Grab one black and one red pen. Both are medium point.

This is what I carry on me and with me all the time.
 

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