So I should ask them if they sell cars? Do you know what a sociopath is? I didn't say psychopath.
Martial art instructors don't have to identify sociopaths, they only have to identify people with the wrong attitude and wrong assumptions about martial arts.
I've seen my Sifu turn people away because their perception of what martial arts is was wrong. There are actually rules that my system follows that refers to what type of people we can teach the system to. It's the same rule that all of the Sifu follow. I've seen my Sifu turn people away.
Just like you didn't make any effort to tone down your statement about being the most "lethal human" people come to the school and say similar things and we turn them away.
I can't stop someone from going somewhere else to learn a martial art technique for the purpose of being cruel, but I can decide if I teach that person or not. Just like I can't stop a criminal from going somewhere else to get a gun, but I can choose not to sell a gun to someone who I think shouldn't have one.
I think the OP was being a little more tongue and cheek that you guys can handle.
I always joke with people that I can turn their child into a Killing machine. It's funny.
I'm also all about the cuddles.
The unfortunate thing about being a lethal human being is that you'd have to kill people to ascertain that, which is to be avoided if possible. Military applications aside, you'd never get a chance to find out. That would be a Good Thing (TM). Don't kill people, people are for living. ☺ Try not to hurt them either, it makes them sad.
Funny thing is, some of the most potentially lethal folks around are sport martial artists. I wouldn't throw down with a good collegiate wrestler if I could avoid it.
That's really not true.
I've got a Glock 19 on my hip right now. I do not need to shoot someone to know I can kill someone with it.
I've got a Benchmade Autostryker in my pocket. I do not need to stab someone to know I can kill someone with it.
I've got a me sitting in front of this computer. I do not need to kill someone to know I can do so.
I prefer to stick with standard definitions:
Given the right tools and training, any of us could be physically capable of lethal action, but how many, when push comes to shove, could enact? Given historical rates of fire, not many, unless subjected to sufficient conditioning.
Again, even though I have never killed anyone, I know I am psychologically capable. Mr Mugger didn't survive because I held back.
You do have to do an honest self evaluation, but your statement that you cannot know without actually killing is simply wrong.
Still lethal whether things are killed or not
Er… cute bear and all… but… no. If things aren't killed, then it's not lethal. Simply potentially lethal… or maybe "life-threatening"… or "dangerous"… Semantics and all, but hey… we might as well actually understand the words we're using
Why would someone set up and identification process for something that they aren't qualified for? If you aren't qualified to identify sociopaths then why would you put that in your process for identifying students you want to teach?If you're going to have some kind of identification process for who you will teach, you need to be able to identify them in the first place… so yeah, you do have to identify sociopaths (which was the context of the comment at the time). As far as "wrong attitude and wrong assumptions", that can be corrected… sociopathic tendencies, not so much… hence your ideas being based in movie fantasy far more than reality.
How can I tell who I wouldn't teach? Easy, I wouldn't teach anyone that I thought wouldn't be a good addition to the school or a good example of what a Jow Ga Kung Fu student should be.Look, your personal decision about who you teach has never been in question… the question was how can you tell who you wouldn't teach? How can you tell that this person, who appears so "normal" when you meet them, but is really hitting his kids each night, is someone you wouldn't teach?
There are a million ways to protect someone without fighting or being lethal. If someone wants to protect their family then they have to come to terms when the fact that they can't be around family 24/7 like a personal bodyguard. Then this turns into the realization that your family needs to know how protect themselves for when you aren't around.Mostly what he wants to do with his killing machineness. Which is to protect people. He never even calimed to want to hurt anybody.
There are a million ways to protect someone without fighting or being lethal. If someone wants to protect their family then they have to come to terms when the fact that they can't be around family 24/7 like a personal bodyguard. Then this turns into the realization that your family needs to know how protect themselves for when you aren't around.
When people want to protect their family, it's usually not from the standpoint of being "the most lethal human being known." Being a "lethal human being" means not many people are going to mess with me. It doesn't mean that they can't nor won't try to do something to my family.
Physical capability is one thing, mental and emotional capability is (thankfully) something else entirely. So, yeah, from my perspective, I don't know that I'd be sure about killing unless I'd faced that reality.
Problem is that your "standard definition" doesn't really state that "potentially capable" is the actual definition…
How do you know? I've trained in systems that are specifically geared towards the mentality and mindset of committing to the action of killing your enemy… of acceptance of your own death in the process… and I have little idea of whether or not I'd be truly psychologically capable. I'm pretty sure I would be, but don't know how I'd handle it after the event… and, forgive me, but you train in TKD… so frankly, I fail to see how you've even started to address the realities of the situation.
And, honestly, the macho cavalier attitude displayed here I find somewhat distressing. You've worked as an ER nurse, Mark… I would have hoped that your attitude to death and killing… and being the cause of another's death… wouldn't have been so blasé. I mean… "Mr Mugger didn't survive because I held back."?? Really? I would hope that the reason "Mr Mugger" wasn't killed was because you were a rational, thinking, feeling human being who has problems with the very concept of ending another person's life… if that's not the case, frankly, I have nothing but pity for your attitude in this arena.