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I liked the chart you posted. Very illustrative of self-awareness factors that affect us in all facets of life.
I love these quotes, but my only issue with this quote, is the idea of shunning the fool. There should be at least an attempt to show him that he knows not, so he can go from a fool to simple, rather than shunning him from the beginning.It worth including the entire quote. It is an excellent explanation of people.
"He who knows not and knows not he knows - he is a fool - shun him,
He who knows not and knows he knows not - he is simple - teach him,
He who knows and knows not he knows - he is asleep - awaken him,
He who knows and knows that he knows - he is wise - follow him."
Like the box diagram and Socrates, just about every philosopher out there has said this one way or another.
The stages Steve posted are related to learning (usually specifically to task learning). So unconscious-competent is just not having to think about the thing to do it. Conscious-competent is being able to do the thing properly, but only with conscious thought. They're easy to understand in a MA context. First you don't know what a proper (kick/shoulder throw/whatever) is, until someone shows and explains. Then you know what it is, but can't replicate it. Then you can do it, but you're thinking about the bits you need to control. Then you do it enough that you just do it without thought.I liked the chart you posted. Very illustrative of self-awareness factors that affect us in all facets of life.
Socrates stated "conscious incompetence" (no. 2 in your chart) very well when he said "I know that I know nothing," which is the foundation of wisdom. This isn't bad if it's balanced with some "conscious competence." If you don't know that you're ignorant (no. 1), learning is impossible.
"Unconscious competence" (no. 4) to me is the most interesting for its Taoist reflections. The sun doesn't know it's bright, the turtle doesn't know it's slow, nor the lion fierce. IMO this is a goal in MA where we strive to let our technique and ki naturally flow from us, without conscious thought or ego. It becomes more true, more pure, more powerful.
Not knowing what you don't know is a natural first step (unconscious incompetence). Some folks like to live in that box, and that's where you run into issues with the dunning/krueger effect.I love these quotes, but my only issue with this quote, is the idea of shunning the fool. There should be at least an attempt to show him that he knows not, so he can go from a fool to simple, rather than shunning him from the beginning.
Exactly, and it's actually a great counterpart to the idea of situational leadership and how, as a teacher/manager/coach, you would relate to people depending on where they are on that grid.The stages Steve posted are related to learning (usually specifically to task learning). So unconscious-competent is just not having to think about the thing to do it. Conscious-competent is being able to do the thing properly, but only with conscious thought. They're easy to understand in a MA context. First you don't know what a proper (kick/shoulder throw/whatever) is, until someone shows and explains. Then you know what it is, but can't replicate it. Then you can do it, but you're thinking about the bits you need to control. Then you do it enough that you just do it without thought.
Coach speak is just annoying. But it does solidify the old saying "those who can't, teach".Exactly, and it's actually a great counterpart to the idea of situational leadership and how, as a teacher/manager/coach, you would relate to people depending on where they are on that grid.
For example, as a coach, you don't relate to someone who is consciously incompetent the same way you would relate to someone who is unconsciously incompetent.
I love these quotes, but my only issue with this quote, is the idea of shunning the fool. There should be at least an attempt to show him that he knows not, so he can go from a fool to simple, rather than shunning him from the beginning.
Mr. T or Klubber Lang?You should always pity the fool.
Is that the same as comfortably numb?To unknowingly know what you know without knowing you know it????
I think I'll have a few drinks and become "consciously unconscious." Then it'll all make sense.
"Coach speak"?Coach speak is just annoying. But it does solidify the old saying "those who can't, teach".
??? Win one for the Gipper?"Coach speak"?
It worth including the entire quote. It is an excellent explanation of people.
"He who knows not and knows not he knows - he is a fool - shun him,
He who knows not and knows he knows not - he is simple - teach him,
He who knows and knows not he knows - he is asleep - awaken him,
He who knows and knows that he knows - he is wise - follow him."
Like the box diagram and Socrates, just about every philosopher out there has said this one way or another.
Completely different. Knute Rockne was a real coach talking about his star player George Gipp who fell sick.??? Win one for the Gipper?
As opposed to Steve's comment, which was discussing a model of coaching/training, which is used with real people? I'm confused.Completely different. Knute Rockne was a real coach talking about his star player George Gipp who fell sick.
it's okay. The less attention he receives the more he snipes and ankle bites. I don't think even he believes what he's saying. Just a chance to be petty. I encourage you to ignore it.As opposed to Steve's comment, which was discussing a model of coaching/training, which is used with real people? I'm confused.
As opposed to Steve's comment, which was discussing a model of coaching/training, which is used with real people? I'm confused.