forgive me, but i have to start a net war (hopefully a short one)

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Randy Lin

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Dong Mu Yao original student here,fighting out of the red corner.

Exhibit A: person claims to be the LAST LIVING INHERITOR of Dong Mu Yao White Crane:
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The facts: Everyone in this picture to the best of my knowledge is ALIVE except for SIFU. I and Tien Chi still teach and have been doing so. How are you the last living teacher?
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Exhibit B: person claims to have traveled to Taiwan SEVERAL TIMES to have studied with Sifu and recieved the certificate.

Counter:
how come i never saw you or heard of you?
How come your only picture of him is of him barely able to see you or move around,not from OUR TIME when he could?
How come you say you are the last holder of our lineage when the top student is sitting beside you in the picture?
Where is your certificate?


Exhibit C: NONE of the techniques shown on his site, according to my experience,are from our lineage. My theory is he studied other white crane and tacked Sifu's
name on the end for clout.Screenshot_20260209_083355_DuckDuckGo.webp
Conclusion:
I beleive this person visited Sifu once for a snapshot and is using Sifu's name for clout and to earn money. I will contact my upper classmate soon to get the whole story.
 
Inexcusable IMO, happened with my Shigung and my Shifu. But this post may be against the rules of MT. However I am not a moderator so what i think may not be correct
 
hopefully not. This has to be exposed. a feel a fraud is being perpetuated and if we're not going to be about truth in the martial arts then we need to stop practicing.
 
Dong Mu Yao original student here,fighting out of the red corner.

Exhibit A: person claims to be the LAST LIVING INHERITOR of Dong Mu Yao White Crane:
View attachment 33832



The facts: Everyone in this picture to the best of my knowledge is ALIVE except for SIFU. I and Tien Chi still teach and have been doing so. How are you the last living teacher?
View attachment 33833

Exhibit B: person claims to have traveled to Taiwan SEVERAL TIMES to have studied with Sifu and recieved the certificate.

Counter:
how come i never saw you or heard of you?
How come your only picture of him is of him barely able to see you or move around,not from OUR TIME when he could?
How come you say you are the last holder of our lineage when the top student is sitting beside you in the picture?
Where is your certificate?


Exhibit C: NONE of the techniques shown on his site, according to my experience,are from our lineage. My theory is he studied other white crane and tacked Sifu's
name on the end for clout.View attachment 33834
Conclusion:
I beleive this person visited Sifu once for a snapshot and is using Sifu's name for clout and to earn money. I will contact my upper classmate soon to get the whole story.
I’m not into white crane gong fu, but my eye tell me the guy in gray tracksuit is lacking big time
 
Dong Mu Yao original student here,fighting out of the red corner.

Exhibit A: person claims to be the LAST LIVING INHERITOR of Dong Mu Yao White Crane:
View attachment 33832



The facts: Everyone in this picture to the best of my knowledge is ALIVE except for SIFU. I and Tien Chi still teach and have been doing so. How are you the last living teacher?
View attachment 33833

Exhibit B: person claims to have traveled to Taiwan SEVERAL TIMES to have studied with Sifu and recieved the certificate.

Counter:
how come i never saw you or heard of you?
How come your only picture of him is of him barely able to see you or move around,not from OUR TIME when he could?
How come you say you are the last holder of our lineage when the top student is sitting beside you in the picture?
Where is your certificate?


Exhibit C: NONE of the techniques shown on his site, according to my experience,are from our lineage. My theory is he studied other white crane and tacked Sifu's
name on the end for clout.View attachment 33834o
fConclusion:
I beleive this person visited Sifu once for a snapshot and is using Sifu's name for clout and to earn money. I will contact my upper classmate soon to get the whole story.
Exhibit D: Why does it matter? Are you tasked with maintaining some kind of 'purity' of lineage. If so, you are on the wrong path. Also, this gets very weak when you add "according to my experience". Do you know or not?

You are directly attacking a person who, it appears, you do not even know based on a few photos.
C'mon man.
 
Exhibit D: Why does it matter? Are you tasked with maintaining some kind of 'purity' of lineage. If so, you are on the wrong path. Also, this gets very weak when you add "according to my experience". Do you know or not?

You are directly attacking a person who, it appears, you do not even know based on a few photos.
C'mon man.
Nope. This person claims tobe the last living. He is not.I know this.
 
I’m not into white crane gong fu, but my eye tell me the guy in gray tracksuit is lacking big time
wrong. i was a half second behind Sifu at the time of the picture. i also felt very nervous because it was an important time being covered by reporters.
 
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