Many drills for skill and instruction are to profile the techniques for others to learn. Even the cleanest skills of a Pro Boxer will train & demo well, but the fight itself is a live animal that can get ugly as well as dangerous and we do not invite it into our demos for the sake of instruction and learning. A demos is a demo, not a real fight and yes some demos service someones ego more than the art itself.
It is not always about the pure level of combat speed, combat power and combat intent for demos, EXAMPLE: my opponent throws a punch (So feeder throws punch as instructed for teaching purposes) and Instructor destroys feeder like a live situation to show it really works, this should never happen, you lose students/friends like that.
Many videoclips for instruction are set for the instruction of insight, not just bang away for real with no understanding of technique and principle. Thats what backyard wrestling leagues are for, lol.
I do agree that many vids for instruction are done w/ a compliant feeder for the sake of learning and to keep the feeder & demo'r from hurting each other when the communication of insight & tech etc... is much more important. I have seen demos of FMA, Thai Arts, Shooto, Jun Fan JKD, Bando you name it and they have a certain level of compliance from the feeder for just that reason, so you can see and learn. Yes , for some it is an ego thing, watch me pull of this cool stuff, aren't I great?! LOL.
I would hate to work w/ an instructor who says here is your street self defense, throw a punch and he cracks my skull w/ a beer bottle. REAL & EFFECTIVE, but un-neccesary. you see?
I have had issue w/ this before w/ some people simply trying to profile themselves rather than an arts insight. Feeder throws compliant technique and demo'r throws a mean and hard counter hurting feeders limbs, locking him into a seriously harmfull submission thinking how much of a bad$$$ he is showing himself to be when the feeder gave himself to the demo'r for the sake of others learning. This is the instructors egoism issue , not the arts issue. Any art can be seen doing this, Boxing coaches will demo skill very much like this for instruction & understanding, Would you doubt the effectiveness of Boxing because someones vid clip looked too staged for the cool factor? lol
Do not judge an art by the profiling of a feeder & demo'r by its vid clip, these are usually for the sake of seeing segmented moments in time so we can learn to understand what is being applied.
Cut loose every drill and training partners and friends get hurt, train safe and build up to the feeder throwing more deliberate, more combative and even using follow-ups if the demo'r screws up to show the consequences of mistakes in those situations.
In the past demoing Silat w/ my instructor, he had me throw a punch and a kick he was to counter, as he worked his counter I followed up w/ an extra punch after the too initial shots, which he just continued and said see, if he follows with another punch we still parry and sapu the foot to a takedown. This is one thing my instructor liked about using me as a feeder, I helped show how live counters can be and if i could somewhat safely add to the aliveness of a demo all the better, and show how serious consequences can be there if you foul up.
Demos are demos, just that simple, if you see a demo and think that feeder was just giving him the punch = RIGHT, as a feeder you must trust the demo'r to show principle etc... and not destroy you and vice versa, you must trust the feeder will not fire off a killer jab trying to knock you out each set when you are simply instructing an entry or what have you.
But I Don't Want To See A Demo, I Wanna See The Real Thing, lol. Then go to the alley behind Tic Toc Liquors (Insert rough neighborhood here) and wait, you may winde up in the fun too, lol. Now thats real, but we do not go there (ANYMORE, LOL).
AriesKai, if you are a realist as you say, and If you do not feel that Panatukan is effective and is an empty looks pretty cool compliant art, go to where they train and ask for the real deal, they will likely abliege you, lol.
If you find it sound then great may be something there for you, if you find that it does not stand up to your realist instincts and fails, let us know, many of us would be interested in he who has shown Panatukan to be only a looks pretty art, lol.
Not a challenge mind you, if you doubt it, you go find out for yourself, that way you take no-ones biased opinion but your own from experience, not just from that vid looked too pretty.
There are practitioners who demo much more realisticly (Which I have respect for) while still being as safe as possible to be true to the art. Example again, Muay Thai or Bama Lethwei Kickboxers, even when demoing an instructor says throw a low leg kick and he does not respond, THUMP! he takes a kick. Usually though that deliberate kick is just what the instructor wants to show how a leg check or another counter works.
Just remember, some do this compliant demo for ego reasons, but not all arts are as compliant as a feeder may be. With a compliant feeder I can make anything look effective and many students are compliant to ensure they engraciate themselves to the ego of their instructor.
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