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James Mitose used the Kenpo spelling in his books ("What Is Self Defense" and "In Search of Kenpo").mhouse said:I beleive, and please someone correct me if I speak out of turn, that Chow was the first one to change the spelling from Kempo to Kenpo.
Randy Strausbaugh said:James Mitose used the Kenpo spelling in his books ("What Is Self Defense" and "In Search of Kenpo").
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Matt said:He also spelled it "JIU-JITSU (KEMPO)" on Thomas Young's instructor certificate. (7/1/46)
Matt
To further confuse matters, four of those letters (all dated 1947) referred to the book by the title "What Is Self Defense by Kempo Jiu-jitsu". In a 1953 letter by Dr. Arthur Keawe, printed in the second edition (1980 reissue), Dr. Keawe uses the KeNpo spelling. Since Dr. Keawe was a direct student of Mitose, it may be assumed that both he and Thomas Young knew how Mitose wished the name of the art to be spelled.Matt said:Strangely enough, in the original manuscript, it was apparently spelled kempo, but the change appears to be a publisher's error. If you get a chance to look at the 'letters' reviewing / recommending his book in the front of the first edition, they all refer to "What is Self Defense: Kempo Jiu-jitsu". He also spelled it "JIU-JITSU (KEMPO)" on Thomas Young's instructor certificate. (7/1/46)
I'm not sure that helps any.
Matt
Randy Strausbaugh said:To further confuse matters, four of those letters (all dated 1947) referred to the book by the title "What Is Self Defense by Kempo Jiu-jitsu". In a 1953 letter by Dr. Arthur Keawe, printed in the second edition (1980 reissue), Dr. Keawe uses the KeNpo spelling. Since Dr. Keawe was a direct student of Mitose, it may be assumed that both he and Thomas Young knew how Mitose wished the name of the art to be spelled.
I've heard the publisher's error story before, but in "Mitose's In Search of Kenpo" (published in 1984), the word is spelled "Kenpo" throughout. Surely, if the "Kenpo" spelling was a publisher's error in 1953, it is unlikely that it would have been repeated in 1984 by a different publisher in a different book by the same author.
Sorry if this doesn't help. :asian:
Mr. Bishop if you feel the need to see a copy of that certificate all you need to do is talk to bruce juchnik I can arrange that if you wish to email me at kelly_m_keltner@juno.com and I will give you mr. juchniks phone number. It has changed recently. You can arrange to see a copy of that certificate.John Bishop said:I have heard this rumor from the Juchnik camp before. I would like to someday see a copy of this certificate, since this was a specific question I asked Thomas Young in a 1988 interview I had with him. His response at the time was "KeNpo". Another response was that he had never heard Mitose refer to the art as "Kosho Ryu", only "Kenpo Jiu Jitsu" and "Shorinji Kenpo".
kelly keltner said:Mr. Bishop if you feel the need to see a copy of that certificate all you need to do is talk to bruce juchnik I can arrange that if you wish to email me at kelly_m_keltner@juno.com and I will give you mr. juchniks phone number. It has changed recently. You can arrange to see a copy of that certificate.
yours in the arts
kelly
I understand your point Mr. Bishop and I apreciate your insight. I myself have been to the location of the official self defense club on one or two occasions. The honest to god truth is I don't care how Kenpo/kempo is spelled. The point you made is that the "Juchnik camp" was making claims about a certain certificate of Thomas Young's. Which Mr. Juchnik happens to have a copy of. Which was given to him by Proffesor Youngs family. I told you I could arrange that for you. I have also told you I would connect you with Mr. Juchnik since his contact information has changed recently, But you can also recieve that from people like Mike Young. You could also problably get the new number from Jaime Basquez. Who you might see this weekend if you are going to Mr. Emparado's gig in Vegas. If you were so inclined to talk to him, Mr. Juchnik would problably show hours of video footage of interviews with Thomas Young, Anton Kruky, and Paul Yamaguchi. Also if you haven't already talked to Mr. Yamaguchi I could prablably try to make introductions for you. Paul and his wife Helen are wonderful, sweet people. Anyway back on task. All of the aformentioned men Knew Mitose personally and had a chance to share their thoughts on the man on video with Mr. Juchnik. AlsoJohn Bishop said:Thanks for the kind offer, but I already have contact information for Mr. Juchnik, and Arnold Golub, and Eugene Sedeno, and Rick Alemany, and Thomas Mitose and Ray Arquilla.
But the most important thing is that I was given this information first hand by Thomas Young, Adriano Emperado, Wally Jay, and Sig Kufferath. All men that knew James Mitose in the 40's and 50's.
Another little know fact is that the "Official Self Defense Club" still exists in Hawaii today. It was handed down to Thomas Young, who affliated it with Henry Okizaki's "American Jujitsu Institute" as the "Karate branch". Prof. Young passed it down to Simeon Eli. And it was passed down to Charles Lee after Simeon Eli died. It is still affliated with the "American Jujitsu Institute" and they still spell it "KeNpo".
kelly keltner said:I understand your point Mr. Bishop and I apreciate your insight. I myself have been to the location of the official self defense club on one or two occasions. The honest to god truth is I don't care how Kenpo/kempo is spelled. The point you made is that the "Juchnik camp" was making claims about a certain certificate of Thomas Young's. Which Mr. Juchnik happens to have a copy of. Which was given to him by Proffesor Youngs family. I told you I could arrange that for you. I have also told you I would connect you with Mr. Juchnik since his contact information has changed recently, But you can also recieve that from people like Mike Young. You could also problably get the new number from Jaime Basquez. Who you might see this weekend if you are going to Mr. Emparado's gig in Vegas. If you were so inclined to talk to him, Mr. Juchnik would problably show hours of video footage of interviews with Thomas Young, Anton Kruky, and Paul Yamaguchi. Also if you haven't already talked to Mr. Yamaguchi I could prablably try to make introductions for you. Paul and his wife Helen are wonderful, sweet people. Anyway back on task. All of the aformentioned men Knew Mitose personally and had a chance to share their thoughts on the man on video with Mr. Juchnik. Also
Mr. Juchnik has copious amounts of information and documentation on Mitose. All you have to do is call. I have spoken to Mr. Juchnik on this issue and he would love to talk to you and is happy to have an oppurtunity to share with you. once again email me any time. I would be happy to write or give you my number so we can speak.
kelly
p.s. If you go to vegas this weekend be sure to say hi to Jaime Basquez for me. I look forward to seeing hom at the gathering.
Mekugi said:Isn't that right here(?):
http://www.oldpinetree.com/hanshi/certimg.html
"Pure and True Karate and Kenpo and Kosho Shorei Yoga"
Note: I dunno, I did a quick websearch. The link might be hooey. It does seem to have the word kenpo typed in though.
Mekugi said:Isn't that right here(?):
http://www.oldpinetree.com/hanshi/certimg.html
"Pure and True Karate and Kenpo and Kosho Shorei Yoga"
Note: I dunno, I did a quick websearch. The link might be hooey. It does seem to have the word kenpo typed in though.