- Nov 7, 2007
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Now in the ensuing time, he has since brought in other people who really know what they are doing to help augment and support his on CHK system (notably BJJ and some other, better Hapkidoist) and there are peopl ein his organization that are talented, either from prior Hapkido or just plain naturally good, so you will find within the system people who know their stuff, but it's not really a result of what he knows, teaches or has passed down
Combat Hapkido != traditional hapkido. It's as simple as realizing that and moving on.
No one is making him use "hapkido" as part of the name - if it's in the name shouldn't it be in the art? If it's in the art shouldn't it use the principles that make the art "work".
Or are you saying it's ok to be intentionally deceptive "Hey, I never said it was hapkido - it's different"
It seems to be your take - since the understanding of the founder of the principles of the art seem to be irrelevant to the art - "hey he's got some good people so what's the difference"
Not at all - I think this brings the thread back full circle. You're basically saying "it's (CHKD) John P's great mixture of stuff he thought was cool it's not hapkido - get over it"
Fine - why should we care what John P thinks is cool? He doesn't seem to move very well -
"Well he's got a 9th dan in Hapkido"
But shouldn't he move with in the perimeters of Hapkido? He added Hapkido to the name.
"It's not Hapkido - it's his special blend"
Well why should I care what he thinks -
"He's got a 9th dan in Hapkido"
DOH!!! :lfao:- come on it's like "who's on first" - it's funny.
So why should we care (and buy) what he thinks? - i.e. his art of COMBAT Hapkido
He doesn't have any of those things.
There are many different Martial Arts - I've never claimed that Hapkido is the answer for everyone. One mountain many roads.
I'm simply asking why would you trust a man that doesn't have any of the above criteria?
If you think the above criteria isn't a valid test - what would be? Why would you trust this man's opinion?
Is it useful? A Big question -
How do you know it's useful? You looked at though the lens of the martial art you know (Karate and Aikido - correct) so you can see that it's slightly similar to what you know, but different. I can see through a Hapkido lens and it doesn't seem valid.
How do you know what he changed is valid?
Seems not to employ Hapki/Aiki principles.
He doesn't seem to move impressively well - "wow - I've got to learn that!" Why should we trust his opinion?
"In 1990, Grandmaster Pellegrini develooped his own style of Hapkido, called "Combat Hapkido" (Chon-Tu Kwan Hapkido in Korean). Although firmly rooted in Hapkido, it is considered an "eclectic" system because it contains elements from other fighting disciplines. In 1999 Combat Hapkido became the first non-traditional Hapkido style founded by an American to receive official "Kwan" recognition by the World Ki-Do Federation. In 1992 he founded the International Combat Hapkido Federation (ICHF), the governing body for his system. Today the ICHF has grown to over 250 affiliate schools in 15 countries, making it one of the largest Hapkido organizations in the world. (TKD Times Jan 2005, p.47)
"I started studying and researching Hapkido when I was already a 4th dan in Taekwondo. I became passionate about Hapkido for three reasons: Taekwondo was becoming more and more of a "sport" for children and young adults: the practical self defense side was very limited and I wanted an art that I could continue to practice in my senior years when my athletic abilities would greatly diminish. I found that Hapkido was suitable for my mature body, my personality, and my lifelong desire to teach the most realistic and effective self defense system." (GM P in BUDO International NOV/DEC 2004, p. 6)
"My decision to found my own style of Hapkido was not based on ego or the quest for glory. It was prompted by my belief that all science and technology must continue to advance and improve, not remain stagnant and become obsolete. It is called progress, which is the engine of survival of human civilization. BUDO International NOV/DEC 2004, p.6)
He by his own account used Hapkido as the base and considers his art to be a form of Hapkido, I feel I can judge that part of the art, not the BJJ ground fighting, or the Kali or any other part of CHKD."Combat Hapkido, the system I founded in 1990, is a hybrid, eclectic system structured on the foundation of Hapkido. If you want to remodel, expand, or redecorate a house, it is not necessary nor wise to destroy the entire foundation. You can be creative, efficient, and practical in the changes you make, using the existing sound structure." (BUDO International NOV/DEC 2004,p.8 )