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# US Presidents assassinated: 4. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_assassination_attempts_and_plots

We had mass protests in the 60's and 70's. That's 40 years ago.
Kent State Massacres were in 1970.

Not saying 'above reproach' but theres a difference between these things. I'm unaware of anywhere in the US where there is a curfew with a death sentence attached.
We also haven't whisked away our senior military and other heads of state and 'vanished them'. The USSR, Cuba and other communist nations however...did.

Before the Revolution in Russia there were regular pogroms with thousands being killed, that was a capitalist society so the communists took over and killed people so what was new? People kill people, always have done always will, regardless of their political beliefs. communists are no worst or better than anyone else. I doubt being a slave in capitalist America was pleasant, they were hardly allowed to wander freely were they? Even released they still had a stinker of a life dodging capitalist lynch mobs.
The point is that it's not the systems it's the people, to be so afraid of communism and as Sukerkin says to froth at the mouth about it is not attractive in a country where the people pride themselves on free speech and being reasonable.
 

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tez,
you are wrong

the red chinese are as anti religion as stalin ever was.

you are just simply wrong.

If you say so, educating you on European history, beliefs and politics would be an onerous job but I'd gladly do it if only to stop you repeating propaganda and actually make you do some real research. To go through life blinkered is a great pity. To think something cannot be because you don't wish it to be so is a dangerous way of thinking.
 
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Then why are you so concerned with the alleged "right wing" in Europe Tez. (in truth they are the far, far left) They must just be "people," too.
 

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communism by definition is anti religion

who was it that said "religion is the opiate of the masses"


pretty sure he was involved SOMEHOW in communism....:mst:
 
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I love free speech Tez, even from these foolish people. Unfortunately, if they ever had real control over the country free speech would be one of the first things to go, as they have shown in all the countries where they had the upper hand.
 

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tez,
you are wrong

the red chinese are as anti religion as stalin ever was.

you are just simply wrong.


The last time I looked China wasn't in Europe so I don't think I can be wrong about some of the European communists.


BillC you keep talking about 'they', it worries me. Who are these 'they'? Bob has already explained that there a mixture of people at the demos and as America is the last place on earth to turn communist I don't know why you are so afraid.
 

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tez,
you are wrong

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Not regarding the general concept of which she is speaking, my friend. In that she is most definitely correct. It is very dangerous to not think, not properly investigate and not listen, even to people you fundamentally disagree with ... for what other reason would I not have BillC on Ignore :lol:?

Also, glad to see something from you - I was about to do a search to see when you last posted as I didn't recall seeing anything from you for a day or two :tup:.
 
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More amazement really at the communists. The national socialists (nazis) will march every once in a great while here in Illinois or other states. They are met by hundreds of counter marchers who ridicule them, and make a nice counterpoint to their racist rallies of 10-15 people. The communists murdered close to 100 million people around the world, the national socialists about 15-20 million people. The communists march openly and without the same counter protests that you see with the national socialists and with a great many people making excuses for their philosophy. Something you don't see with the national socialists. No one ever says, "well, it's the people, not the philosophy of the nazis" or "nazism was never really tried," when you talk about national socialists.

Another funny thing, you will never see a lovable nazi. For example, in the movie Red, there is a lovable KGB agent who is the romantic interest to the British agent. The KGB were just as bad as the gestapo, killed more people, simply because they lasted longer, and yet...they are now lovable. That is what makes me interested in the false philosophy of communism. It has yet to have its moment of real scorn and contempt, the way the national socialists have. I mean, a lot of those silly protesters are wearing Che t-shirts. Why don't they wear hitler t-shirts? They could switch them each day, and maybe have a mass murderer day at the protest rally where everyone wears their favorite mass murderer t-shirt.
 

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school has been a chore pal. Just havnt had time for message boards

Not regarding the general concept of which she is speaking, my friend. In that she is most definitely correct. It is very dangerous to not think, not properly investigate and not listen, even to people you fundamentally disagree with ... for what other reason would I not have BillC on Ignore :lol:?

Also, glad to see something from you - I was about to do a search to see when you last posted as I didn't recall seeing anything from you for a day or two :tup:.
 

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If I need to go to the bank and a group of people seriously tries to block the entrance and not let me in, what do you think is going to happen? Do I strike you as the kind of person who will say "Oh well, guess the people have spoken" and go back home? If I want to go in the bank, I'm going in the bank. How that happens isn't as important as that it will happen.
Lol. Okay, bill. Frankly, it strikes me as unnecessarily dramatic. I mean you say stuff like this a lot, and I get a kick out of it. "Saw some girl scouts at the grocery store today. They ask me if I want to buy a cookie, I'll give em a cookie... A KNUCKLE COOKIE, right to the mouth!"You just don't strike me as the perpetually hostile guy you sometimes try to present. Or maybe you are. Just strikes me as funny. :). Obviously big don and twin fist like the barely controlled rage brimming just below the surface. Hehe.
 

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Sorry, folks, but 17 pages and all I read is a whole lot of refusing to look in Galileo's telescope. Along with changing the rules depending on whether the subject flies a blue flag or a red one.
 

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Before the Revolution in Russia there were regular pogroms with thousands being killed, that was a capitalist society so the communists took over and killed people so what was new? People kill people, always have done always will, regardless of their political beliefs. communists are no worst or better than anyone else. I doubt being a slave in capitalist America was pleasant, they were hardly allowed to wander freely were they? Even released they still had a stinker of a life dodging capitalist lynch mobs.
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Let's not even get into the annihilation of Ameican Indians, and the great western land grab-er, I mean "migration." All for $$$$$$$.

Capitalism at it's finest.
 

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Then why are you so concerned with the alleged "right wing" in Europe Tez. (in truth they are the far, far left) They must just be "people," too.

In truth? they are far right and I'm concerned because they keep trying to annihalate me and mine, I know it's a poor reason to worry about the far right taking over but there you are, I just like to worry about trivia.
 

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It is time for common people to rise up about real issues. Jefferson belief in one man one vote was never meant to be all men but educated people on the issues enough to make a reasonable decision. It makes me sick how simlar to propaganda and out right lies a common tool of Facist or despot resoning can convince conservative or right or right right think people of complete and total lies with regards to fair and reasonable handling of the American economic policies. The media Phycology of a thing today and Montra of the Repuplican Party GOP is dosn't matter if its a lie or distortion of the truth if you repeat it enough times in the media it becomes true and people are dumb enough to support it and that in America that is a large % of our voter base totally voting on thier uneducated emotions. They and the people that lead them to the edge of the cliff will not listen to plain and simple facts that the rich are raping robbing and murdering people here on a mass scale and getting away with it and that they only want more. Worst of all when all else fails just throw the values card we are better than them or our problems are those lazy or ugly or not same church or or or on and on. Our elections are now bought and sold and it will take everyone on both sides democrats and dilusional republicans when they finally don't have a pot to piss in to take it back. It is not in mans nature to be governed and for the greedy to be controlled only government acting on the mutual interest of the many will protect the majority from the tirany of the few. What they have done to huge pension funds in the US they should executed. while large companies have been raided and bankrupt CEO and execs have been given retirement packages in the billions. This is not going to change until congress grows a pair of balls because they are facing being fired by the people or domestic terrorism rises to kill some of thesee *** Holes

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Jefferson's belief in one man one vote was never meant to be all men, but, educated people on the issues enough to make a reasonable decision.
What part of the OWS protestors looks educated and/or reasonable?
It makes me sick how similar to propaganda and outright lies a common tool of fascist or despotic reasoning can convince conservative or right or right right think people of complete and total lies with regards to fair and reasonable handling of the American economic policies.
Where is Elder's favorite photo when I need it? Oh, here it is:
400pancake_bunny.jpg
The media Psychology of a thing today and Mantra of the Republican Party GOP is doesn't matter if its a lie or distortion of the truth if you repeat it enough times in the media it becomes true and people are dumb enough to support it and that in America that is a large % of our voter base totally voting on their uneducated emotions.
Like the people at OWS protests?
They and the people that lead them to the edge of the cliff will not listen to plain and simple facts that the rich are raping
, robbing and murdering people here on a mass scale and getting away with it and that they only want more.
You can't rape the willing, and most of those who lost houses, sadly, bought more house then they could afford and failed to read and comprehend the terms of their mortgages, how is that anyone's fault, but. theirs?
Worst of all
, when all else fails; just throw the values card "We are better than them." or our problems are those lazy or ugly or not same church or or or on and on.
Uh oh, bunny time again
400pancake_bunny.jpg
Our elections are now bought and sold and it will take everyone on both sides democrats and delusional republicans when they finally don't have a pot to piss in to take it back.
Why are only republican's delusional? How is unsustainable spending responsible?
It is not in man
's nature to be governed and for the greedy to be controlled only government acting on the mutual interest of the many will protect the majority from the tyranny of the few.
The few thousand dirty, uniformed, inarticulate protestors out of a population over 300 million?
What they have done to huge pension funds in the US they should executed.
Can you show an actual crime? If so, what crime?
While large companies have been raided and bankrupt
ed, CEO's and execs have been given retirement packages in the billions.
Gee, I guess CEO's were smart enough to negotiate their contracts to look after their interests, shouldn't everyone be as conscientious?
This is not going to change until congress grows a pair of balls because they are facing being fired by the people or domestic terrorism rises to kill some of
these *** Holes
It kind of looks like you're endorsing domestic terrorism, there...
Sorry, had to do some editing before I could make enough sense of your rant to respond to it.
 
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