A 'coup' in Honduras? Nonsense.

[geezer]

Perhaps if our president wasn't out condemning the enforcement of the Honduran Constitution...

Hey Don, could it be that your dislike of the President is really fueling this thread? Because, it sure can't be the issue itself. Since you don't seem to consider anyone else's point of view, that is. You just assume they don't understand what you are saying. People are responding thoughtfully to your stated arguments about the constitutionality and legality of Zelaya's ouster. They are just pointing out the complexities of the situation.

It seems to me that you just don't want to recognize any point of view but your own. Maybe that's why you tried to start all over with a duplicate of this thread? Please get down off your soapbox and try discussing the issue for a change. Or just let it go. Up to you, my friend.

 

[Big Don]

Well, well, well.
GUESS WHAT!
"In Honduras, according to breaking Catalan newspaper reports (translations available, USA Today mention), authorities have seized 45 computers containing certified election results for a constitutional election that never happened. The election had been scheduled for June 28, but on that day the president, Manuel Zelaya, was ousted.
Coming as no surprise (to anyone who's been paying attention) Zelaya won the illegal, and, oh yes, wholly imaginary election. What a guy.
Vote Early and Often Or don't, the result is the same...

 

[Carol]

Why did they cut the story short?? That's only the first half!

http://www.el-carabobeno.com/p_pag_not.aspx?art=a180709e09&id=t180709-e09

Next section:

En riesgo mediación

Estados Unidos se opone a una tentativa de regreso a Honduras del presidente depuesto Manuel Zelaya, estimando que esa iniciativa pondría en riesgo los esfuerzos de mediación que encabeza el presidente costarricense Oscar Arias.

“No queremos que la gente tome medidas que puedan entrar en conflicto o no contribuir positivamente a los esfuerzos de mediación de Arias”, declaró un portavoz del Departamento de Estado, Robert Wood.

“La tensión es muy alta”, señaló Wood. “Y lo que tratamos de hacer es llevar a las partes a concentrar sus esfuerzos sobre la manera de retornar al orden democrático y constitucional” en Honduras.

Wood se negó a precisar si Estados Unidos se había contactado con Zelaya para tratar de convencerlo de no intentar un regreso a Tegucigalpa, pero bajo anonimato un funcionario del departamento de Estado indicó que el mandatario depuesto conocía perfectamente la posición estadounidense.

La Secretaria de Estado de Estados Unidos, Hillary Clinton, advirtió sobre “cualquier acción que pueda conducir a la violencia en Honduras” en clara alusión a Venezuela y reafirmó su compromiso con restaurar el “orden constitucional” de esa nación centroamericana.

Asimismo Clinton exhortó a los demás países a “jugar un papel positivo en esa meta”, informó el diario El País de España en una nota publicada.

Risky Mediation

The United States oppsses an attempt to return deposed president Zelaya to Honduras, believing that such an initiative would jeapordize the mediation efforts headed up by Costa Rican President Oscar Arias. "We don't want the people to take measures that will conflict with or not contribute positively towards the Arias mediation efforts contribute positively to the Arias mediation efforts", declared a spokesman of the State Department, Robert Wood.

"The tension is very high", indicated Wood. "And what we are trying to emphasize is that the region must concentrate its efforts on returning constitutional and democratic order" in Honduras.

Wood refused to confirm if United States had been contacted with Zelaya to try to convince him to not return to Tegucigalpa, but an anonymous State department employee indicated department indicated that the deposed Zelaya was well aware of the American position.

In an obvious reference to Venezuela, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has forewarned about the possibility of "action that would result in violence in Honduras" and reaffirmed her commitment to restoring the "constitutional order" of the Central American nation.

Likewise Clinton implored other countries to "to play a positive role in that goal", as reported by Spain's newspaper El País de España.


There is more on the link, including the dynamics of Zelaya's departure, and the reaction of Hugo Chavez:

“Zelaya dijo que en las próximas horas entra en Honduras, pues nosotros estamos con Zelaya. Hay que apoyarlo. Zelaya va entrar a Honduras y ya verán los gorilas qué van a hacer”, dijo el presidente venezolano, Hugo Chávez, desde Bolivia, donde se encuentra de visita.

"Zelaya has said he will enter Honduras in a few hours, therefore we are with Zelaya. This must be supported. [because] Zelaya will enter Honduras and will see that the guerillas will do what they have been planning to do," said Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez, visiting in Bolivia.