Ray
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There is a difference between a quota and a goal (or a target).I have been told point blank by 2 cops that they do NOT have quotas. They simply don't keep their jobs if they do not write enough tickets.
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There is a difference between a quota and a goal (or a target).I have been told point blank by 2 cops that they do NOT have quotas. They simply don't keep their jobs if they do not write enough tickets.
There is a difference between a quota and a goal (or a target).
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My solution, of course, is for everyone to drive 5mph thru these zones. Not only will it grind traffic to a halt on the best of days, but it will ensure the state generates no revenue and loses money from all these fancy pieces of equipment WE paid for.
So Illinois is Begining a Camera Enforcement in ALL Highway work zones... regardless of the presence of workers. Get caught going 46mph, and its a 375 dollar fine. Get caught going 46 TWICE and its a 1000 fine and an automatic suspension of your licence for 90 days.
No questions asked.
Now, what I wonder is this:
While I understand that "speeding is speeding" is 1mph over the limit realistic? Is that precision digital radar camera FAIR compared to having to judge that 1 mile point on my old analog radial speedometer?
My solution, of course, is for everyone to drive 5mph thru these zones. Not only will it grind traffic to a halt on the best of days, but it will ensure the state generates no revenue and loses money from all these fancy pieces of equipment WE paid for, AND will have the added benefit of protecting the lives of the workers in these speed zones.
I think its more a "we need cash so lets really screw the people" thing.
I can see only one real solution when a government puts such an unfair laws as the speeding cameras and zero tolerance.
MASS CIVIAL DISOBEDIANCE! How? Drive SLOW. Yes get as many people to drive slow, well below the speed limit, even in perfect weither and jammed packed roads at rush hour. Even get a few others to block all the other lanes forcing eveyone to drive slow.
Nothing like zero revenue for $$ spent putting up the cameras to get them to stop.
This way you don't do anything they can arrest your for. Just obey the speed limit in mass!
Maybe get some of those Tea Party people to help, or even organizations like MADD.
Deaf
I can see only one real solution when a government puts such an unfair laws as the speeding cameras and zero tolerance.
MASS CIVIAL DISOBEDIANCE! How? Drive SLOW. Yes get as many people to drive slow, well below the speed limit, even in perfect weither and jammed packed roads at rush hour. Even get a few others to block all the other lanes forcing eveyone to drive slow.
Nothing like zero revenue for $$ spent putting up the cameras to get them to stop.
This way you don't do anything they can arrest your for. Just obey the speed limit in mass!
Maybe get some of those Tea Party people to help, or even organizations like MADD.
Deaf
While I think the speed limits in America are too low, the fact of the matter is this is for contruction zones, regardless if workers are present, and the law has been in effect for quite a while, and it has also had a big success so far in lowering the death rate of highway construction workers.
This is not for all highways in all parts of highways.
I guess if you think the highway construction workers lives are worthless then you can complain about that 1 mile an hour over the speed limit thing...
but hey I am going to support the highway workers...
You know the laws, you know the fines, you dont like it then you can try to chnge it, but be damned sure that if you get caught you will pay. What is so hard about that?
its like the 25 mph zones at schools and senior citizen homes.. but I guess you probably also feel they don't deserve a certain level of safety either.
Personally I also feel its more about the income then saving the lives of construction workers.... since all they have to do is actually close the highway down while the workers are doing their thing to insure 100% safety from highway drivers.....
Of course I guess having a certain level of convience is worth a few lives, plus the Unions so far up these politicans asses I am surprised they don't change the names of politicians to hand puppets..
LOL someone gave me negative reputation for this? WOW I guess someone is a diehard union member or politician /shrug LOL
Oh, did I forget to sign that, my bad. That "ding" was for assuming that I feel a persons life is worth less than being able to drive an extra 1mph since I complained about it. You will excuse me if I found that accusation to be a total crock.
First of all... if I hit a worker at 45, are you saying its much better than if I do it at 46? Maybe we should all go 44 then? Truthfully, the argument over the 1mph has NOTHING to do with the saftey of workers, it has everything to do with the fact spedometers vary from vehicle to vehicle, device to device within reasonable tolerances and what reads as 46 to you might read as 45 to me, and 47 to Someone else. This is the reason I feel we need PEOPLE to do this kind of enforcement, so they can make the judgement whether or not saftey was an issue. A Camera cannot do that.
Maybe they should lower the speed limit to 35 and give you a 10 mph leeway.. Would that make you feel better?
(from the Springfield, Illinois Herald)As a result, the number of state work zone fatalities has dipped from 44 in 2003 to 21 in 2007.
being this Draconian about it may or may not reduce that further, but tell me something and be honest:
How many workers lives do you propose will be saved by these methods on Sundays and Holidays and after Midnight when no workers are present? I predict: "0". That's way I also propose if it wasn't being done as a revenue source we can change this policy to somthing more like the one Indiana has I mentioned in my previous post.
No I have to say I believe these things should be enforced 24 hours a day 7 days a week, at least given the fact that where I am it is indeed happening over a long period of time at all hours..