You don't need to fight every jackass that touches you.

Discussion in 'General Self Defense' started by Josh Oakley, Jan 24, 2012.

  1. MJS

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    Hmm...well, given the fact that we live in a sue happy world, I figured that it'd be best to assess each situation and act accordingly. You are free to do as you choose, however, just understand that your actions may come back to haunt you.

    Hell, myself, I've posted that if faced with a weapon, ie: a mugging, that I'd rather not cooperate and instead, fight back immediately. Some have said that they'd rather cooperate, and then if they felt the badguy wasn't going to leave, but instead use the weapon, try to take them to another location, THEN they'd fight back. I disagree with that. But again, that situation is very different from the one described here.

    And before you or anyone else says it...no, I'm not saying the guy in this case didn't/wouldn't/couldn't have/use a weapon. I'm saying in the situation presented here, to chase the guy down, and bust him up, IMO, isnt warranted, but again, to each their own.

    Once again, I've said numerous times, to assess each situation and act accordingly. Would I bust the guy up? Sure, if, after I told the guy to **** off and leave me alone, he takes a swing at me, but again, we, as martial artists, should be able to control what we do, again, for each situation. If someone can't do that, then they've missed out on quite a bit in their training.
     
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    full force and no half measures? Do you mean you would advocate killing the guy?
     
  3. Josh Oakley

    Josh Oakley Senior Master

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    Yes. Also set him on fire, to get the devil out of him.
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    If he can move 15 feet in the time it takes you to turn around your probably not going to when that fight no matter how drunk or mentally inept he was... I'd say you made the right decision. Did his name happen to be Wally West by any chance?
     
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    His pieces, You mean, since Youll have hit him so hard hed break apart.
     
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    Re-stomp the groin, then drive over him with your car as you leave.

     
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    Dammit, why didnt I think of that :D
     
  8. Josh Oakley

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    ...I didn't turn around immediately. He made my knee buckle on the kick, remember? I had to regain my balance first. It takes about a second to move 15 feet. It took me about two to get my bearings. The guy wasn't superhuman, he just caught me entirely by surprise. This might be a revelation for you but you get pretty used to drunken transients walking around near you in Seattle.
     
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    I agree with Bill. We teach our students to follow through with their physical techniques. We need to teach them to follow through with their mental techniques as well. Call the police and get him removed from the streets and hopefully get him some help. At the very least you have got him documented so if he escalates the violence the courts already have a pattern established and can make sure society is better served.
     
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    You'd need to do a full exorcism then, but I could see it being done on the fly. After you kill him and set him on fire...
     
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    I was once in a prison...... (pause)...... on a tour that went with a college class I was in... not as an inmate.... where the guy they had in solitary basically did that.... and he saw the demons leave with the smoke... or at least that is what he told the judge.
     
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    I KNEW it!!
     
  13. Josh Oakley

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    So, it's been over a decade since my last physical confrontation of any kind (not counting mortars and small arms fire). Is it normal afterword to just feel... I don't know... off? I don't really have a word for what I'm feeling right now.
     
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    depends on the attacker. in your example, no. If he had been say with in 5 ft. oh ya, you better stop that attacker. But it is a judgment call of the treat and level of threat if one exists.
     
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    I was just busting your chops bro. I don't get to make Flash jokes very often. On that note. Sweet mother of mercy there are drunken vagrants outside of Texas!
     
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    Thanks for clarifying. I think later I would have no problem with my chops busted. This wasn't exactly a pleasant experience for me, though. Give me a week, then bust my chops all ya want.
     
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    No, it isn't normal to have odd, undefined feelings about the encounter? Or are you saying no to something else?

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    I think that people in general are uncomfortable with confrontation. Our society overall tends to encourage an avoidance of confrontation and creates a reality where it is not often necessary, so many of us never get very comfortable with it. The more intense the confrontation, the more it can get under our skin and mess with our heads.

    Yes, I think it is normal.123
     
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