A small percentage isn’t the same thing as a small number.
What is your plan for re-opening?
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That is a side effect I wish we had better statistics for. It almost certainly exists, but we don’t know how much of an increase there has been.
jobo
Grandmaster
it can be
If the population in question isn’t large, or the percentage is very small.
But “could be” is pretty weak in this case.
jobo
Grandmaster
using undefined terms like ''small number'' is a weak argument, even weaker than the term small %
jobo
Grandmaster
the uk government have continued their policy of just making things up on the fly.
having previously discounted the idea of face masks as ineffective and counter productive they are now requiring people to wear them on public transport, but as actual masks are very difficult to get hold of, the government requirement is that you should tie a duster or other large weave piece of cloth round your face like a highway man or be fined, highway robbery indeed
having previously discounted the idea of face masks as ineffective and counter productive they are now requiring people to wear them on public transport, but as actual masks are very difficult to get hold of, the government requirement is that you should tie a duster or other large weave piece of cloth round your face like a highway man or be fined, highway robbery indeed
ShortBridge
3rd Black Belt
Sorry, Jobo. That must be horrible for you.
Wear a killer clown mask (like your avatar). If anyone complains, you are just following regulation!
And stop complaining. Remember, no matter how bad it gets, you could have our president.
^^^^ Sorry! My bad. No politics. Won't happen again!
jobo
Grandmaster
its so bizarrely unspecific you could wear much what you wantWear a killer clown mask (like your avatar). If anyone complains, you are just following regulation!
the ever helpful bbc has a web page with pictures on how to make a mask out of a t shirt, which goes,,,,,, first cut a piece out of the t shirt, then tie round mouth, really you need to explain that to people
No, no... T-shirts are too porous. The virus can get right through. Better to put a plastic bag over your head and seal it with several wraps of duct-tape tightly wound around your neck. Do that, and I can guarantee that you will never die of Covid-19!
...OK. I forgot about all the diverse range of intelligence of all the people who might be reading this. People: DO NOT SEAL YOUR HEAD IN AN AIRTIGHT PLASTIC BAG.
There you go again, deflecting from your lack of logic and reason by playing semantic games. The term is relative, and you absolutely understand it. You just pretend it's complicated and difficult to understand, rather than admitting you mixed up percentages and actual numbers.
In many cases, this is progression of understanding. Masks aren't terribly effective (for folks not used to wearing them) at reducing the chance of getting infected. They are more effective (even home-made cloth masks) at preventing outward transmission.
jobo
Grandmaster
of course its a relative term, thats the problem, what its relative TO, is known only to you and subject to change to fit what ever point your failing to make
its like them folk who stick very, or ultra or uber in front of things as if it means anything at all in a discussion about relative qualities or quantities
jobo
Grandmaster
on a loose weave like say a duster, its just going to build up a concentration of virus on the outside of the cloth , meaning that anyone close is going to get a big hit
people two meters away may be safer, but the reason for wearing them is your going to be cheek by jowl with people on a crowded train
A build-up on the outside would perhaps be a problem if you sneezed, or such. I don't know if the virus is dislodged easily enough for anything short of a sneeze to make it airborn. If not, people nearby aren't in much danger - certainly probably less than simply breathing in the virus you exhale (rather than it getting lodged somewhere on the mask). Looser weaves will be less effective, but I haven't seen a model or any data to suggest where the line of ineffectiveness might lie.
jobo
Grandmaster
its in a fine mist that has soaked in to the cloth, of course it will be come airborn, if some one decided to hold a flem soaked handkerchief 6 inches from your mouth would you consider that safe ?
coughing or sneezing THROUGH it will just make it worse
you do know how small these things are dont you ? they are not going to be filtered by a duster
If George Floyd is tested positive, should those 4 police officers be infected?
So, you meant folks within 6 inches of your face? Yeah, they're probably in trouble. As for the rest, I go with what the scientists say, rather than your rantings. By the way, I'm not even sure what a duster is. In the US, that'd be a thing (often made of feathers or a feather-like material) for dusting.
What is the point of this post?
