My lingering question to the teakwondons here is, why dosent tkd use some of its kicking techniques and throw them at the lower end of the body? One of the "issues" mma and others have with TKD is the perception they have no low kicks. Tho i have seen on youtube and other places that some of the kicks that are normaly only thrown mid and high can be quite effective as a low kick. Forgive me if i use the wrong terms, but the round kick and the side kick were what were demonstrated for me, both working up high as well down low.(attacking the knee and shins and other movement generating things) Im sure there are other kicks that can do low attacks as well, just why arnt they practiced or focused on? Every time i see a TKD in a mma or even K1 bout they almost never throw low kicks. I would imagine that Tkd would do better in mma if it had some measurable way to prevent takedowns, but thats just my opinion. Having said that, i dont think sucsess in the cage measures its viability on the street for self defense. I have a friend, who never steped foot in a cage, and has used his tkd many times on the street for real self defense.