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  1. skribs

    skribs Senior Master

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    The idea that weapon safety is unimportant. Weapon safety is the first thing you should learn with any weapon, the more true the easier it is to have an accident with them. (For example, a knife or a gun).
     
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    Once you explained there was more than that, I no longer have that assumption. I was explaining why I had that assumption, not saying it was still relevant.
     
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    This is the point. The line of thinking I had, was with this method.

    Now, in this discussion, I've had people tell me the model is bad because axes have an edge. No. You're doing the same thing I was doing, you just came to a different conclusion. You may group things differently than I do - and that's fine. You see them in different ways than I do, you have different experiences with them than I do. That's just human nature that we see things in different ways.

    My original point was that I can see the weapons grouped this way. And I specifically chose a broad category for reasons I outlined, with the understanding that there are flaws in those categories, flaws which I could catch if I focus on that specific weapon. It was an off-hand comment about a way of looking at things, which was taken face value as a statement of absolute fact.

    But it feels like that assumption still exists, based on the way I'm forced to still defend it.

    The problem here is the same problem we've been discussing - what do I categorize as "relevant" and what do I categorize as "irrelevant"? And how will I know what that is, until someone questions it?
     
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    I believe we are in agreement. He said if your biggest worry is hurting yourself with the weapon, then you should put it down. I agreed with him. That is a safety issue.
     
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    I took my "disagree" off of your post. You took a different understanding of his post than I did.

    I took it more as a personal shot, in the context of the other posts in this thread.
     
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    Never said anything remotely resembling that. Neither did anyone else.
    If you just want to argue with a strawman, you don't need me here. You two have a good time.
     
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    That's how I read your post. That I was not worthy of training or teaching how to use weapons, because I think about how to use them safely.
     
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    Fair enough, and I can’t speak to his intentions.
     
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    Lol.

    Turn a gun around, and it's a club! So a club is obviously the best way to categorize guns.

    Good talk.
     
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    Up until the point you incessantly try to get others to accept said (wacky) categorization, sure.
     
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    Actually, that's true. You could, in fact, use a gun that way if you didn't have any more ammo. So, yeah, it can be included in the club category, if you like.

    It should also be in the projectile (or whatever) category.

    See, it just depends whether putting it in that first category is useful for your purpose. If it doesn't help, don't put it there.
     
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    Well, when you step in with an outright attack, saying something is bananas just because you don't like the ambiguity of it, you should expect folks to respond to that. It's a pretty common reaction I'm sure you've seen before.

    So why would you be surprised at the result of your action?
     
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    No, at first I just (rightly) dismissed it. The discussion only started when op spasticiy kept insisting.

    Sort of like you are doing now.

    Go away now laddy, this is stupid, and it's making us both stupid.
     
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    And you wonder why I'm on the defensive?
     
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    Saw this image, thought of this conversation...

    "How Social Media Works:
    Me: I prefer mangoes to oranges.
    Random Person: So basically what you're saying is that you hate oranges? You also failed to mention pineapples, bananas, and grapefruits. Educate yourself."
     
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    I did actually say they could be used as clubs. I also clarified later I was talking about melee weapons. Which should have been obvious from the categories.

    After all, there are two types of people:
    1. Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data sets

    I also left out Apache Helicopters with Hellfire missiles. I left out ICBMs with nuclear warheads. I left out needles laced with smallpox. I left out attack dogs. There are a lot of things that can be used as weapons I left out. I didn't include what I felt wasn't relevant to the discussion.
     
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    Do you see what you're doing? I'm pointing out something about your behavior, and you now refer to what I'm doing as "spasticiy...insisting". So, because someone disagrees with you, they're being stupid, rather than maybe they just have a different opinion.

    You usually are much better than that.
     
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    To be fair, I think he was saying I am being a spaz, not you.
     
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  19. Now I remember why I have Martial D on ignore. Lol

    Took him off and it is back on.
     
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    I'm intrigued about the variation in spelling of 'axe'.

    How much of the US correctly includes the e and why?
     

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