In the interest of taking away possible points of contention; My initial rank in HKD comes from GM Dunn. His HKD rank is in no way connected with GM Won, it came after their association ended. GM Dunn chose to discontinue advancement in HKD and instead focused on his pursuits in TKD, and now KSD. I have chosen to continue in my HKD ranking, as I feel it lends support to what I offer in KSD, and now have surpassed GM Dunn (in this one area). Though I consider him my senior in the arts. I have continued with Master Nigel May who is under GM Julian Lim. I am currently a 5th Dan in HKD under Master May who is 6th. The HKD rank, to me, only supports the content of what I've chosen to put into the curriculum of MSK KSD. I don't generally advertise either my TKD or my HKD rank in favor of just stating my KSD rank. That's it in a nutshell.