Do you like to fight? WHY?!?!?

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  1. NSRTKD

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    Liking to fight isn't the same as going around making a lot of fights occur. Many people dislike fighting, yet end up in a lot of them, in my opinion THAT is the less advanced mind, rather than the mind that likes to fight and knows how to, but chooses nonviolence for problem-solving.
     
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    In survival situations, I think that thinking is the most important part of fighting, not a seperate component to it.
     
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    <shrugs> I have a MBA and hold a BS in Engineering and BA in Labor Relations. I like to fight (er, spar or also train/compete against a resistant foe).
     
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    let me be clear :sparring is not fighting. When you have a referee, scoring system and penalties it is called sport. When some jerk bumps into you, calls you various names and takes a swing at you, that is a fight.
     
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    guess the little brain in all of us wins sometimes.
     
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    No, that's them making a big mistake :)
     
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    Yes, it's called biological determinism. %-}
     
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    The Hypothalamus, you mean?
    Yeah, it can be a very strong aspect of the Brain.
     
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    More like the limbic system. Hypothalamus stimulates other glands in our bodies.
     
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    Its worth remembering that the Brain operates on one big, long, Cycle. And I assure you, the Hypothalamus plays a very, very big part in that Process. More so than just being a stimulant.

    "The hypothalamus and periaqueductal gray of the midbrain are the most critical areas controlling aggression in mammals, as shown in studies on cats, rats, and monkeys. These brain areas control the expression of all the behavioral and autonomic components of aggression in these species, including vocalization. They have direct connections with both the brainstem nuclei controlling these functions and areas such as the amygdala and prefrontal cortex.Electrical stimulation of the hypothalamus causes aggressive behavior[SUP][34][/SUP] the hypothalamus expresses receptors that help determine aggression levels based on their interactions with the neurotransmitters serotonin and vasopressin.[SUP][35]"

    "[/SUP]The neurotransmitter vasopressin causes an increase in aggressive behavior when present in large amounts in the anterior hypothalamus (Delville et al. 1997). The effects of norepinephrine, cortisol, and other neurotransmitters are still being studied."

    "The hypothalamus affects the endocrine system and governs emotional behavior, such as anger and sexual activity. Most of the hypothalamic hormones generated are distributed to the pituitary via the hypophyseal portal system.[SUP][11][/SUP] The hypothalamus maintains homeostasis; this includes a regulation of blood pressure, heart rate, and temperature."

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMrPlCDGUwo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMrPlCDGUwo

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS_qMHPI0XM

    http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/life/human-biology/fear2.htm

    http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/begin/cells/fight_flight/

    http://www.ehow.com/list_6907783_parts-brain-involved-fight-flight.html
     
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    You are correct, hypothalamus mostly is an activator. Not the source.
     
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    Do you teach biology??
     
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    ie, the stimulus is in the form of trophic hormones sent to various physical etities as you described. The emotional reaction of the stimulus varies from individual to individual. The core of the emotional reaction is limbic.
     
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    I see the Issue here -- Were looking at this differently.

    The Hypothalamus is an Activator, yes. But what youve said is that the Lymbic System, rather, is the Initiator, and therefore the Source.

    What Im saying, is that the Lymbic System has no care for Emotion, or Feeling. It is Triggered by a Feeling, and in turn activates the Hypothalamus, and a couple of other things. The Hypothalamus then creates the Chain Reactions all over the Body. And those parts of the Body are what do anything.

    Youre narrowing that down to "The Lymic System Starts It", and Im narrowing it down to "The Hypothalamus Creates The Effect, Essentially".


    Also, why would I need to teach Biology?
    Do you have to be Teaching MA in order to be able to have a pretty good idea of what youre talking about?
     
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    No you don't have to be teaching MA to have a very good idea of what you are talking about. You are correct. And you are also correct we are looking at this differently. I liked our discussion.
     
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    As did I, My Good Man :)
     
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    I don't want to kill this thread. The question is a great one. I love to fight because it gives me a great outlet for sitting on my rear end all day. My younger brother got me back into it. I had a 35 year layoff, and have been at it again for a year.
     
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    do I like to fight? NO

    Why? Cause it Hurts
     
  19. Tez3

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    Perhaps you're not doing it right?
     
  20. Cyriacus

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    Yeah, youre doing it wrong ;)123
     

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