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No, Im originally from Ca . Where I studied WC during the 90's. The lineage was Chan Yui Man. Nothing fancy, small school, pay as go garage WC. I was young and lineage didn't really mean much to me back then, or now for that matter. I enjoy them all.
Jake
Chan Yiu Man (Chan Yiu Min son of Chan Wah Shun?). Could you give a bit more of your lineage up and down? Really interested since my lineage isn't Yip Man as a majority of Wing Chun pratitioners are.
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Chan Yiu Man (Chan Yiu Min son of Chan Wah Shun?). Could you give a bit more of your lineage up and down? Really interested since my lineage isn't Yip Man as a majority of Wing Chun pratitioners are.
It does to me? Why would i ask something or start a thread for that matter if other people opinion matters not?
I merely wished to see some opinions on things i mentioned were minor flaws of the system. It's speed and power are obvious. I've trained with,am friends with,and have been to seminars with TWC people.
Some of them even agreed on my argument that they lack chi sao relaxation and visible feats. My opinion is made up,say you? Ok then,perhaps i made all this up. I've stated only the things i've seen with my own eyes.
Same here Zapeda, I haven't the foggiest idea what my lineage is, guess we could call ourselves there bast@&d sons of WC ... if someone haven't already claimed that title.
Yes , that would be him. I trained in his garage.:BSmeter: all I'm gonna say about my lineage Is I trained this pacticular lineage during the 90's . Our Sigung was involved in a violent crime and is deceased . So out of respect to all of the families involved. I will not say anymore or will i drag his name or anyone else through the mud. If this makes me any less creditable then so be it. I train 7 days a week with my son. I live in Gilbert az of Val vista and the 60 . I would love to train with others in the area . If I'm coming off defensive i apologize I forgot to take my meds this morning.
Jake
Too bad I wasn't out there, I'd be curious to see some of your outside ranged footwork and concepts come into play, let alone the art applied from a non Yip Man source, at/on me.
I may be coming out to AZ with my gf for her brothers higherschool graduation, and to bring her back home in general.. was hoping to meet a few people from the forums here.
Thanks for sharing in any event!
Jake,
I'm not too far from you, I live by "the islands" neighborhood around warner and cooper. Maybe we could meet up at freestone park and train a bit, send me a PM if you're interested.
Someone has already claimed that title. And refuses to name his lineage even though they know their elders. I guess he's ashamed of his lineage.
As for me, I know my lineage and proud to list is:
Zepeda - Sifu Francis Fong - Sigung Jiu Wan - Sigung Jiu Chow - Sigung Chan Yiu Min - Sigung Chan Wah Shun - Sigung Leung Jan
Jake104, since you mentioned Chan Yiu Min, there's a bit of my lineage for you. We are related is some way, if you are truely from someone in the Chan Yiu Min lineage. Jiu Chow was Jiu Wan's uncle. But it is stated Jiu Wan also studied under his uncle's sifu, Chan Yiu Min.
Some of Yip Man's students say Jiu Wan was also a student of Yip Man. But that is incorrect. Jiu Wan was a gung fu nephew to Yip Man. When Jiu Wan moved to Hong Kong, Yip Man was already established. And also being the Grandmaster of Wing Chun, Jiu Wan respected him as head of the Wing Chun clans and followed. Yip Man and Jiu Wan were very close during the HK years. It has been written that they dined together often and spent many hours daily talking and such. When Jiu Wan opened a school, with Yip Man's blessing, the Grandmaster even posted a sign outside the door stating 'Wing Chun the pure tradition'. The only school ever thus honored by the late Grandmaster. Jiu Wan died a year after Yip Man.
Jiu Wan has a few students still alive and teaching. Of course, my Sifu, Francis Fong and Jason Lau (Atlanta, GA), Richard Chen (last I heard under Moy Yat in Atlanta), Hung Yuen Chow (Oregon), Fred Kwok (Vancouver, BC) and Roland Wong (Canada). There is also his son, Jiu Wong (Jiu Hung Quin in HK) and his second disciple Guy Lai (not sure if he's alive or dead). And there are others, but those are the most notable ones.
Guy Lai Ying Chau (I'm unsure if that's the correct romanisation) is still alive, I think he most recently instructed some actors for another Wing Chun film.
BTW - if it's of any interest, Jiu Wan also taught a few more movie actors, Tommy Tam Fuk Wing (Ti Lung/Dik Lung) and Lee Hoi Sang.
I knew he taught a couple of actors, but didn't have access to their names. Thanks. You seem to know a bit about SiGung Jiu Wan, may I ask how? Trained with one of his students possibly? If you don't want to say publicly I understand. You can PM me if you like.